[jmgirl]

hi I m Jennie. Im 15 years old and have never been pregnant, and I will not be until I am married once I have begun working and am out of college. I want to help so here it goes:

At my school we have a sex ed class and we watched this video of this woman and it really inspired me so I decided I wanted to share her message with you:

THe woman's father raped her mother, but her mom gave birth to her anyways and gave her up for adoption. Id always thought that if you were raped it was the one time abortion was okay, but she said something that changed what I thought about it. She asked,"Is a human life less valuable, because you became pregnant due to rape, is that the babies fault?" I just thought that that was so true and I just wanted to share that.

A note about abortion, if you consented to have sex, then you had the choice, People say its the womans choice but it was the womans choice to have sex. And if it was rape, it is still the womans choice to kill an innocent baby, the baby is not to blame, it is the rapist, so why take it out on the baby?

Thanks for reading, I hope I helped

[HappyMomAnna]

It sounds like you are establishing some healthy attitudes that you believe and want to keep in your life. I am sure that your committement to your own values and standards will be a light that shines for your peers. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[Jackiejdajda]

jmgirl wrote..She asked,"Is a human life less valuable, because you became pregnant due to rape, is that the babies fault?" I just thought that that was so true and I just wanted to share that.

I agree with that woman.. I think the trouble starts when the birthmom has to tell the adoptee (when reuniting) that they came about because of rape.. I would love to know your thoughts about this!

I am so very glad that discussions about this issue is discussed in the schools..


Jackie

[jmgirl]

thanks for your input! I really appreciate it. I know that all too often teens dont get the info they need about this type of stuff at school and I just wanted to share! So keep on sharing and thank you, I will pray for you all!

[tobeafamily]

I think it's easy to say that it doesn't matter how a child was conceived. Harder though may be for that woman to carry the child in her body for nine months, nourish it and feel it moving inside her, all the while knowing that this is because of a horribly violent act and that this child is partly a product of the man who caused her so much physical and psychological pain. That may be 41 weeks of pure hell or at least seriously conflicted emotions.

Further, it may be traumatic for that child to grow up and learn that their beginning was not from love, or even really good hormones, but rather from violence and degradation.

Lastly, there is an argument, though controversial, that behavior comes from our genetic makeup - so do you perpetuate genes that harbor the ability to commit those types of violent acts?

IMHO unless you've walked in the shoes of those sexually assaulted, you should never pass judgement on their behavior, whether they choose to terminate their pregnancy or carry it to term. We should neither condemn one nor should we ennoble the other.

Regina

[Jackiejdajda]

tobeafamily wrote..IMHO unless you've walked in the shoes of those sexually assaulted, you should never pass judgement on their behavior, whether they choose to terminate their pregnancy or carry it to term.

I agree..

Are the schools in the states teaching anti abortion classes now?

Does anyone know?

jmgirl do you think that the film you watched was an anti abortion film?


Jackie

[Nicole28]

I am a little surprised to hear that you watched a film like that in school, Jennie - was this a public school, or a private school?

I am pro-choice - and definetly "pro-adoption." I think that a woman should choose what she does with her own body. If she chooses to give a baby that was conceived during sexual assault and places the baby for adoption, I would hope that, in the event of a reunion btwn. birthmom and adoptee, that the truth about the conception would come out. I think the child deserves to know!

The important thing to remember is that how you are conceived does not define who you are! I have had experience with sexual assault, and I know that a child conceived in that manner deserves just as much love as the next baby - I also think that, for a woman who has been sexually assaulted, that a baby can help the healing process...

Food for thought!

[St.Ives]

You have the right to beleive what you want. but personally i found youre post and youre opinions to be very jugemental.
I notice that there is a abortion debate board on this website. Maybe you should put youre comments there instead. i think that would be more apropriate. because prsonally i find them triggering and im sure others will to. And if you put them on the apropriate board then people who didn't want to read this kind of stuff would at least have the optionof avoiding it. this board is for the support of pregnat teenagers and i do not find youre comments very suportive.
thank you.

[St.Ives]

ps my post was to jmgirl the original poster, not anyone else.

[Jackiejdajda]

St.Ives wrote..ps my post was to jmgirl the original poster, not anyone else.

What I found interesting (when I finally sorted what was being done) was that negativity was ruling the day in that classroom.

A fifteen year old girl is preaching to the world.. Rape is the heading..

Not good.

Jackie

[PinkRibbon]

When I was 15, I thought I knew everything. I didn't think there was anything left to learn. I was so much smarter than when I was fourteen.
When I was 16, I couldn't believe how little I knew when I was 15. Wow, I had finally learned it all.
When I was 18 I was so grown up. I thought about how much more I knew than when I was younger, even though I thought I knew a lot then.
When I was 21......
25.........
30..........
When I was 35 I realized that I'm always going to be learning and growing. The older I got the more I realized how little I knew.
Turning 40 I think there's more out there to know than I even realized 5 years ago.


The moral of this story, jmgirl, is that you don't know what it's like to be raped, have an unwanted pregnancy, have a fetus that is so disabled if born s/he will spend a short life (days, weeks) in excruciating pain. If even if you have had some or all of these experiences, they vary from person to person. You have no right to speak for anybody but yourself. To think that as a 15 year old you have it all figured out, is arrogant and insensitive.

Do you have any reason for posting except to give us your uneducated opinion?

To the others, I believe that only catholic schools would teach this.

[kburch]

How did this suddenly turn to attacking the 15 year old girl who wrote the original post?

Just because "older people" know so much more than teenagers, does that mean that teens don't have a right to post their opinions? This is the TEEN PREGNANCY board, after all? Should all teens feel afraid to say what they're thinking here because some 40 year old is going to yell at them for being too young? Give me a break!

jmgirl, I'm sorry that people seem to be taking this so out of context. You posted something that you learned that you thought to be interesting and useful, especially since it seemed to change your ideas about aborting a baby conceived in rape. It's nice to hear that they're telling people that becoming pregnant because of a rape does not mean that you have to abort that child. I've heard stories of many women who wanted to keep their child but aborted it because that's what they were told they had to do to heal from being raped. The point is, there are other options, and I appreciate you pointing them out.

[HappyMomAnna]

I think that because this post was made by a young girl forming her own ideas--her own values and her own thinking that tearing her down is not what we adults should be dong here.

A young girl at 15 is still forming her own views. I think that it is completely acceptable the school showed this file--after all many of our 12 year old daughter can go to school--be transported for an abotion and the parents will NEVER be informed. I have a friedn who's daughter hemeraged and nearly died at the age of 14 following a 'school' supported abortion. If you think this does NOT happen contact your local public school system and ask....

I also think that Abortion is a very personal decision. My cousin just reunited with her birthmother and has learned she is the product of rape. She has some strong feelings about this...but, is very grateful for life....and very happy to understand part of the reasons she herself came to certain conclusions.

I would ask that the adults here take a moment to remember this post is started by a teenager who is forming her own feelings. None of us can be sure that this young girl has not actually been abused or even raped. How do we know that she has not felt raped or even scared that she might be pregnant?

Sometimes young girls pose questions or make statements based on deeper feelings then we actually can see. Maybe her best friend was raped? Maybe this is simply a part of this young posters processing her own feelings---maybe her mother was raped--maybe in the future it will happen to her.... After all this happens to many of us during the course of our lives.

Lets keep in mind this is a 15 year old and remember that she can come to her own conclusions just as each of us have. She might go on to work in an area that helps rape victims in the future and she is only starting to examine her personal feelings. We should be supportive of her journey without judgements or inflicting our own personal opinions on her---that was the purpose of the film she viewed.

Happymom and Kburch,

I am with you....

Honey, you keep posting and learning...I thinks its great that you are learning and thinking. Yes, you will find that you may think differently at 20 and thats ok.

This is a teen forum....to degrade and put down for her acting just like a TEEN is inappropriate. To call her uneducated is just plain cruel. She is trying to get herself educated and it can be done without being nasty.....we don't expect 15 year olds to be educated!!!


My daughter is 14 and if anyone spoke to her like that there would be hell to pay....be careful how you talk to children!!

[Jackiejdajda]

Yes I was being judgmental..

Hard habit to break.. You guys are right..

jmgirl I am sorry.. I missed where this message was placed..
Of course this should be a safe place for teens..


Jackie