[london77]

Hello to everyone,

I am new here. My husband and I want to adopt a little boy from Ukraine. We have two children and live in San Diego.

I was born in Russia and moved to U.S. 10 years ago.
I am fluent in Russian and if someone needs help.

Just want to help.

Can someone tell me how to begin the process as an independent?

God Bless your familes

[jmchowat]

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[torim]

I am looking to adopt indy either thru Russia or Ukraine. Do you know what regions are good in Russia? Russian help would be invaluable.
Tori

[london77]

what do you mean "good"? I wouldlike to help you with anything possible in Russia, but what is "good" or "bad" region? can you clarify?

[torim]

I meant which regions are friendly to those who want to adopt independently. I have been told by others that some regions are easier than others.
Tori

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[london77]

I have never heard that some regions are more friendlier than others. I would say that generally, people in larger cities have more relaxed attitude toward Americans overall and to international adoption in particular.

But, I would not even worry about it, because you are dealing with a small number of people when going to find your child. Most of the people around you would not know why are you there. You will deal with people who are in the adoption field, and they know why are you adopting and I would say, they have normal thoughts about people who want to make children happy.
I was born in St. Petersburg but I lived most of my life in Voronezh (city 400 miles south from Moscow) I was adopted from a small baby house in the suburbs of Voronezh. It is in woods with excellent nature around. I visited that house few times in my life helping them to showel the snow. Kids there are from newborns to 3 y.age.

[GOLDILOCKS]

Privet London77
Wow!! You Are The Only Person That I Found On This Site That Is From Russia And Was Adopted As Well!!
I Was Born In Kiev And Was Adopted When I Was 10 Days Old By My A Parents. I Found Out I Was Adopted 4 Mos Ago At A Ripe Old Age Of 33, And Now Want To Find My Birthmother.are You Looking As Well? Would You Know If In Ukraine There Are Archives That Can Somehow Trace A Person By Their Maiden Name And If She Got Married A Name Change? I Came To The U.s. In 1979 And My Language Skills Are Not As Fluent As I Hoped . I Understand Everything ,but My Vocabulary Is Not Perfect.any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated.

Bolshoei Spacibo!!!

[london77]

I do not know how Ukraine works about birthmother's location. I was born in Russia and lived there for 24 years. My a-parents lived in Russia all their lifes. I came to US at 24. I found out that I was adopted at 10 (very painful finding for me b/c my a-parents were abusive by saying that) They would say nasty things about me all my childhood. You know, the attitude about adoptive kids is very bad in RUssia. They considered to be stupid bastards. Well, I do not care any more. I have J.D. in law, M.A. in foreign affairs, and PhD in Foreign Affairs. I proved by all means I am not stupid. But, it is all I do all my life-trying to find another proof for them that I am normal. (They still do not believe) I was not trying to find my b-mother in Russia. I would like to, but do not know how to do it right now

[GOLDILOCKS]

Hi
I Am Soo Sorry That Your Childhood Was Soo Tough ,my Relationship W/ My A-mother Wasn't Peachy Either, But My A-father Is A Dream Come True!! Whatever My A-mom Was Not He Was That And Then Some !! Acording To My A-mom ,my B-father Was An Opera Singer, And She Tortured Me My Whole Life To Play The Piano , Soo For 13 Years I Played ,entered Julliard Pre-college Division And Once I Turned 18 Haven't Touched The **** Thing!! Entered Nyu And Majored In Dentistry, And Have Been Working In The Dental Field Since.
Judging By Your Acedemic Accomplishments , You Don't Need To Prove Anything To Them And If They Are Not Proud Of You Then Screw Them!!!
I Contacted The Ukranian Embassy In Hopes Of Getting Some Info On My B-mother , I Just Have To Go There In Person And Make An Official Request For My Birth Records.i See That You Are Interested In Adopting A Boy From Russia, Are You Looking To Adopt A Baby Or Older Child? After Finding Out That I'm Adopted I Would Love To Adopt A Little Girl( I Have 2 Boys) But My Husband Isn't Thrilled W/ That Idea. Is Your Husband American Or Russian?
Well Enough W/ Verbal Diarhea,(lol) I Hope To Hear From You Soon

Jhenia

P.s. Kak Tebia Zavyt?

[london77]

Hello,

We switched to Ukraine and will go independently. We want to adopt a boy from 3 to 6. We have two girls 13 and 6.
My husband was born in CA, so he is an American by birth, and I am naturalized citizen.

Do you know how many children NAC allows you to see?

[london77]

Menya zovut Ylya. (Julia)

[GOLDILOCKS]

HI YULIA
SORRY FOR SLOW RESPONCE(WAS OUT OF TOWN),
FROM MY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE I THINK YOU CAN SEE AS MANY CHILDREN AS YOU WANT BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE PARTICULAR ORPHANAGE.
THERE IS INFORMATION ON ADOPTION ON THE U.S. EMBASSY WEBSITE IN KIEV , ASK FOR OLGA .IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS E-MAIL ME AND I WILL GET YOU IN TOUCH W/MY COUSIN'S WIFE IN KIEV, SHE IS A PEDIATRIC PSYCHOLOGIST. ONA MOJET TEBIE POMOCH NAITI REBENKA BEZ PROBLEM.I'M PLANNING A TRIP THERE IN 8/05 HOPEFULLY I WILL FIND MY B-MOTHER BY THEN. DID YOU START THE HOME STUDY PROGRA YET?

JENIA
JEANNIE

[packerpatriot]

You can read more about the process of adopting independently from Ukraine on my website
http://americanexpat.blog-city.com
There are tons of families stories out there describing their process and information on how to put together the dossier.

Also to the poster seeking her birthmother....there is a person in Ukraine, his name is Ruslan, that we used to find my daughter's birthmother. I don't see any reason why he couldn't also help to find yours. Email me at packerpatriot@hotmail.com and I will give you his contact information.

Cristin