[Star_Gazer]

I know that many of you believe that school issues should be handled by school and not become an issue at home. (and I’m not saying I disagree with that approach)

My 7th grader gets his assignments signed off on every day by his teachers.
Well last night, he erased his assignment after the teacher had signed it and wrote “None” for homework.
It seems that grounding doesn’t work with him. I usually try to give him extra work, when he pulls something like this. He has to do the school assignment and then something I come up with as extra work, but it doesn’t seem to help either and really is more of a headache for me as I have to keep redirecting him to do his work.

This teacher lets the kids turn in assignments late with no penalty so he can make up the work with no consequences from school but the dishonesty is really the bigger issue anyway.
Any suggestions are welcome.

[lucyjoy]

No homework due to erasing? Hmm, sounds like he has free time to do chores!

Saturday school at home can be effective as well.

Just don't do anything that is more of a problem for you then for him.

[kretzklan]

It may be tougher at that middle school age - but my DD's teacher was willing and able to change the way homework is handled in her case. Normal homework doesn't even get graded - it only gets checked off for being turned in. She now grades DD's work and DD has to stay in recess if she didn't complete it correctly. So, maybe some of it could be put back "on the school"...not that I'm for giving teachers extra work, but just something simple like "if my son doesn't turn in his homework on the first day it's due, could he please have lunch in someone's room to work on it?"

[lovemy6]

My kid's like yours. He has to write his hw in pen, since he's a lying sneak. If it's in pencil, I'll assume it's been changed, since that's what his habit is. If he has no hw, and it's in pencil, he can do a chore for me for 30 minutes.

[aspenhall]

Trust issues have nothing to do with the school. They are handled seperately at my house (and I'm soneone who doesn't seperate anyway...I act in addition if needed)
Go search my posts for "the trust jar" to see what has worked for our family.

[jackiesbooks]

Aspenhall -

I did the search and came up with 28 pages of posts. Could you please share "the trust jar" idea?

[aspenhall]

ACK!

wow....ok sure...

The trust jar is an large old random vase (from my dating years) filled with cotton balls (pink balls). It is placed on top of a bookshelf in the main living area of our home and visible from many places in my home. For each age you are, I expect the jar to be mostly full no matter the age.....so if you were 6 and the jar was less than half full, you would only get the life of a 3 yr old....constant supervision, no friends houses, or paints, or scissors etc... If the jar is near full you have full rights to everything a 6 yr old can do....playdough access, bike riding, friends houses, big kid books etc...

In order to "gain trust points/balls", you must meet my expectations. One point/ball per expectation met. If you make poor choices, you lose points...but not just one at a time. OH NO, trust is EASY to lose FAST, but very hard to gain back fast. Depending on the infraction, you may lose 2 up to EVERY SINGLE BALL. I never take less than 2. Because trust is twice as hard to earn once lost. I never tie the trust points to MY emotions unless my dd is attached fairly well. (for example, "I'm dissappointed with your behavior, and you now lose 3 trust points/balls.")

For EVERY SINGLE request, I consult the trust jar to see where the level is at. My basic response to any "can I..." priviledge request is always "I don't know, lets go check the trust jar". She is learning to build up her points, after a few bad days, before even asking me.

Now a child of mine, is a child who gets things randomly as I see deals or specials or things I think they'd enjoy. HOWEVER, it is up to my daughter to decide if she is trusted enough to receive the very cool things I buy her ( a 2 yr old cannot be trusted with a DVD etc..). They go up on the shelf next to the trust jar until, or unless, the jar is above half full, AND IF she has not -lost- a SINGLE trust point that day...which includes all of bedtime...the item of her choice is given ONLY the following day.

Some of the items include toys she has been grounded from, as well as books, DVD's, horse related items, etc....

On the items she has been grounded from, I may decide I no longer care to store them and I will be selling them on ebay for cash, OR she has the option of buying them back from me. 1 chore per toy is the price.

All in all it helps me see her good behavior (as she is quick to remind me she's doing well) and it helps illustrate the idea of trust VERY WELL. We started this awhile ago and she responded well, both when she had attachment/selfish issues, and also now. The jar takes all responsibility off of my shoulders and puts it squarely on hers. I don't make the choice of whether or not she may go to a friends house, SHE does, by the choices she makes. And it's futile to argue with a JAR.

As a special bonus, I have agreed to buy my child a HORSE......if she can keep the trust jar full (or near full) for an entire year.

The cotton balls were chosen, because anything cool would have been to tempting to take down and play with....also they're cheap. Also, points may NOT be earned by patronizing me...extras do not earn you points (such as rubbing my shoulders) only a happy attitude and trying your best will earn you trust. If you drag your feet and I have to remind you multiple times to hurry or keep going or stop playing around, you no longer get a trust point for that thing even if you complete the task I have asked you to do. I expect to have to remind a 7 yr old once to finish a 30 min chore. I expect a school age child to arrive home from school at a certain time (15 min allowed for only a 5 min walk home).

I expect the same to do as their told, WHEN their told. 2-3 points are given when you do the task before I even have to ask (brush teeth, put dish into dishwasher, start your chore, do your homework...etc...)

I try to keep my expectations reasonable, and I penalize HEAVY for intentional deceit such as lying or leading me to believe a lie, or ANY sneaky behavior. I also never confront her about the obvious lie, I just remove the points. Plus, I base whether or not I trust your story on the trust jar! Even if I'm sure it's true, I'm not allowed to believe her if she doesn't show any trustworthiness (in evidence by the jar). My common response to her choices, nowadays, is "Oh, I'm sorry you chose to do that, because I know how hard it is to earn trust back, once it's lost". It took many weeks of being treated as a 2 yr old, for her to catch on. As it began I was a bit lenient because I wanted her to establish good habits quickly and without too much work. Over time, I adjusted my expectations slowly to the level she is at now. It hardly ever occurs to her to fight me when I ask her to do something...she nearly NEVER whines at her chores, or small requests such as put your shoes away. AND more than that, she is quick about it. I smile and Thank her as I put a trust point in....immediate consequences for good as well as poor choices. She hasn't needed a time out in months.

If you have any other questions let me know....maybe I should tell people to search "cotton balls" instead...lol