[lucyjoy]

My 16 year old is now grounded until he's 37. The sad thing is, he can't figure out, being the 8th child in line, that he's NEVER going to get away with anything. Even after he's caught, he is trying to lie his way out. I mean, really, being number 8 in line, he shouldn't even bother trying the lie.

[crick]

Are you sure you want to punish yourself for that long? LOL! Might be better if you just ground him til he's 17 and 11 months & 29 days....

[AmyAnne]

as my best friend tells me on my bad days...

"One day he will learn. Unfortunately, today was not the day."

[kburch]

So, any progress on scouting out the "Remote Island for Teenage Boys" yet? Really, I think it would be a great idea. Maybe we'll go pick them back up when they're twenty-something... While we're at it, let's find another one for those with teenage girls, too...

Oh, and do we even want to ask what he did to earn a 21-year grounding? Must be quite a story...

[kay]

I'm with Crick - why on earth impose that punishment on yourself??? When C does grounding-type infractions, the last thing in the world I want is to be tied to him!!! Sympathy - and yeah, that sounds like quite a story.

[lucyjoy]

Well, grounding beats jail and even when confronted with adult witnesses and concrete evidence he continued to talk in circles as denial of even being there. I live in a tiny town-people KNOW who is who.

He wasn't where he was suppose to be, was with a girl that was banned from my yard for messing with my younger son who is WAY to young for D and trouble besides. He was also tresspassing in a grain yard and climbing on the grain silo's/elevators which can be very dangerous, especially for those unfamiliar with what they are, how they work, and the types of accidents that can be deadly.

And even caught, he is refusing to take any responsibilty. He was previously caught jumping on moving trains.

So, since his brain isn't working, he'll have to be where I can make his decisions for awhile.

It is so crazy to watch him lie when he's caught red handed, especially when we have so many kids and this never works. So, rather then argue with him, I simply stopped talking and told him not to walk out the door without my permission.

[momraine]

Why do they do that? M will lie about things, usually food, he will drop his food on the floor under his chair and then lie about it, when I can plainly see it sitting there on the floor. It makes me crazy. We have discussed the consequences and he still says, "I didn't know I would be in trouble if I did that" Even though he has been in trouble every single time. Now however I am varying the consequences. He was actually weighing them to decide if a behavior was worth it. So now I just tell him if you do what you are supposed to good things will happen, if you don't, bad things will happen and I will choose what good or bad thing happens. That is making him crazy. I can see him headed for trouble as a teen, and am hoping I can deal with it now, to keep him from ending up in more trouble when he is older.

[chickymum]

See this is exactly why I love coming on this board. Just when I am about to explode because an incident has occured involving an obvious lie then I read that most of the parents here have the same kid as me. And since I am laughing at all of you then I pretty much have to laugh at myself too.