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Originally Posted By Graham

Good thoughts, thanks for taking the time....

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Originally Posted By Pam

Well, I appreciate your thoughts, but will never agree with them. Also, would like to add that MN, on their website, specifically states that if you are gay or lesbian you are welcome to adopt. As for STD's...the only STD that WAS more prevalant in gays was AIDS. THe others are hetero spread...syphillis, gonarrhea, herpes. Please...no more "gay is a choice" posts to me. I am not reading them anymore. Take care )

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Originally Posted By Mary

O.K. I understand you don't like them. When I worked at Juvenille Hall as a teachers aide 5 yeas ago, a nurse came as a guest speaker about sexual diseases. That is what she taught, that homosexuals have a higher incidence of STD's and of course AIDS. Maybe this was wrong or wrong data at the time. AIDS is still so scary. I guess we won't ever agree. Have a good day Pam

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Originally Posted By Graham

I'm reminded of Dean Edell, the radio doc, who can never understand why people spend huge amounts of money on holistic "cures" and "rectal cleansing" etc etc, against all scientific evidence and logical explanation. If you really WISH something was different perhaps one day it will be. It's faith, not reality.
We all live our lives in the way that gets us through the day, and through the night into the next.
Just about everyone in this group is doing the best they can for a lot of badly hurt kids. Is gayness really more important than that?

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Originally Posted By Mary

Graham I need you to really think about this situation which happens to foster children more than other children. It's sexual abuse. A scinereo: A boy of 9 has been sexually abused by a man in mid 20's. This goes on for 4 years. He kisses the man, is forced to do acts upon him, and yes get's turned on in the process. Just because he get's turned on, doesn't mean he likes it or is not scared. I kinow this because when I was 9 I was sexually abused also. He feels even worse because it has happened with someone of the same sex. Since most of society does not accept them as normal, he gets ashamed and beleives he is gay. He is sent to foster care to a home with two gay men. He sees love, compasion, understanding, honesty, and then the stab in the heart. The men kiss each other and hug. They wish to show him love ( appropriate love, not pedophillia) maybe hug him or have him lay with them on the couch while they stroke his head. That is my favorite w/ my son. Gays are more affectionate usually than most people. If he was constantly beaten and abused in his former home then even if it reminded him he would be better off and feel somewhat safer with them . See I understand that sometimes it can be better than what they came from. But the constant similarites that remind him are not good. It is a fact most sexual abusers are male. So placing a boy in a lesbian home would not really be a reminder, but I admit I still am not for the lifestyle. The story I tell you is my story ( the sex abuse,not fostercare) I changed it to a boy so you might relate to it. It is what Yrand and I have been saying. This is my last post to this thread, I promise. Thanks for listening

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Originally Posted By yrand

I know my subsidy question isn't very sexy but as a working
woman I'm looking at $100-130.00 a week per child for daycare.
That's if I can find a place with an opening for them! I've
been calling around and have been unable to get through all the voice mail and pagers to get any info. Does Title IV-E
cover childcare or just therapists? Will Social Services take
up the slack?