[Rayma]

In Lancaster, Fairfield County, OH the child services seem to have a practice of stilling children from good loving homes, placing them in foster care and even putting them up for adoption.

My niece is going through this with her 2 little girls now.

An accusation was made by a niebgher that was proven in court to be false in court.

The child sevives then used the fact that my niece was so upset about her children being removed (before anything was checked into), that they refused to give the children back.

They have made her see serveral psyciatrist. All have given her a good report.

She has done everything that has been asked of her without complianing.

Now they keep making fause accusations. Before one is proven to be false, they make another.

All of the charges have been proven false, so now they are dening her one of her court ordered suppervised vistitations. After looseing in court there request to cut back her visitations.

My niece goes to every doctors appointments, her 1 dtrs therapy (she wants to know how to care for her dtr when she coms home), and anything else that concernes her children.

Children's serviceses are trying to take her parental rights away so the "foster parents" can adopt the girls.

These "foster parents" never go to the doctors appts or to the therapy appts or anything else that has to do with the girls, that they claim to love and want to adopt.

Another child that needed to be imditally removed from the parents home, due being forced to watch an adult do sexual acts to another minor. Was returned to her parents. Because they didn't have any foster parents available.

The lawyer pointed out that if they returned my nieces children they would have a place to place this other child.

The judge is catching Child services in several lies. And even the child advacate is one sided.

The child advacate only comes to 1 visitiation a mo, no doctors appts or therapy appts. And always agress with child services.

The last court date the judge asked the child advacate if she agreed with childs services accusations and she said yes, he then asked her if she was there at the time and she said no, she arrived later. Her report on this "incident" that child services made up was thrown out.

Child services no longer will allow my neice to check the girls to see if they are being abused or mistreated. She had found bruises in the past and took pictures of them. Them they were persented to the judge.

The children have been in foster care for 13 months now,
in the same home. They will not eat unless their mom feeds them and the oldest (3 yrs) has regressed during the time in foster care.

I am an adoptee, this is my bio-niece. My a brother and his wife where foster parents so I know that child services lie to everyone.

I beleive that if they would put their time, money, and energy into helping the children who need to be in a fosterhome, and let the children who have good, loving, nurtering parents remain with there families.

Check out: http://www.cpcwatch.com/oldsite/forms/
CPC Watch Inc.
168B Fall Creek Dr.
P.O. Box # 974,Branson, MO 65615-0974

[trunks888]

Woww.
thats horrible I will be praying about this.

[Jeanne21]

My friend went through the exact same thing a year ago. Her son was delivered by C-section, and they took the infant 2 days later (they hadn't let the hospital). They said the mother had drugs in her system, and so did the child. Well, my friend got herself a criminal lawyer (this is a suggestion for your neice too: since they treat you like a criminal, a criminal lawyer really really helps). The lawyer found out that the info about the drugs was a complete lie, and both the mother and the infant were COMPLETELY drug-free. The child was to be put in fost/adopt. Fortunately, the lawyer refused to allow them to do this (my friend wanted her baby back). So, the lawyer forced the CAS to place the baby with his great-grandparents. He stayed there for 4 months while my friend went through drug rehab (although she hadn't done drugs for a long time before he was born, and had been through drug rehab already!) Anyways, when he was 4 months, my friend got her son back. Then, CAS started coming all the time, for unscheduled "check-ins". The last one was 2 weeks ago at 11:45pm! The baby was already asleep, and they wanted my friend to wake him up! Anyways, she at least has her baby back... but things still aren't that great. He turned one today, and is absolutely beautiful.

I am not saying that all Children's Aid workers are bad. I think that the vast majority are really good and helpful. Something, however, they make mistakes just like other people. Like others, they don't want to admit they have made a mistake and they don't want to correct their mistakes. It's not everyone, but there are some....

[Rayma]

I'm soory that your friend went through that and is still going throw problems with child servces.

Getting a crimmal lawyer is a good idea. Unfortionitly, my neice (and the whole family - icluding me) is poor. So she can't afford to pay anyone.

Her atty is from legal services. I provided him with some web sites that educated him on some things. He says that he is going to use what he learned in court.

Her child advacate rarely shows up and and always agrees with child services. The judge caught her in one of her dsceptions. He asked her if she agreed with child services that a certain incadent happened during a visitation and she said that she did. So he asked if she was there when it happened, she at first said yes, then said that she arrived later. Then the judge asked her how long she stayed during the visit and she admitted that she was only there for a half hour. So, he asked her how often she visits and she stated that she had visited only once that month, but usually she visits twice a month. So the judge stopped listening to her.

The younger child was diagnosed with a rare chromosonal disorder called Di George Syndrome (22q11.2 deletion is the underlying problem) and is not even being seen by any of the specialist she needs to see RIGHT NOW, her next doctors appt isn't until Dec. My niece is going to try to change the appt to a closer date.
Child services is complaining about her going to all of the doctors and therapy appts. I think thats just being a good parent.

She goes to court again tomarrow. She has asked if I will take the children if she doesn't get them back and I agreed. Of course, child services will want to check me out. And I need to get a lawyer which I can't afford. Her lawyer said that I can get a lawyer throw legal aid in that state. She's in Ohio and I'm in TN. I'm the only one in the family who can take the children.

I hope and pray that everything turns out alright.

Thank You for sharing your friends story. I know that some people don't want to know/believe that this is happening.

I posted this on one site and it was deleated. Well the site was for foster parents wanting to adopt. But that was the first site I found that I thought came close. I got some good web sites from someone there before the deleation. I never got to thank the person. But some of them are the ones that the lawyer is going to use.

Thanks again, Rayma

[Jeanne21]

I am sorry that it has taken so long for me to write back, but I have been quite busy with school.

As for your post being deleted from other sites, I can understand why the moderator would have done that. In most cases of foster care adoptions, the children are being taken from abusive homes or from homes where the parents cannot care for the children adequately. When the children are taken from caring, loving homes where (in most cases) there is a single parent, who is often poor, foster families don't want to believe this can happen. I think that some (not all) foster families want to see themselves as "saving" a child. Sometimes this is not the case, and they are actually acting against what is in the child's best interest.

My friend was lucky because she was able to recruit a lawyer, to help her with her case, that did not require payment. The lawyer saw the case as being unjust, and wanted to fight for what he believed to be the best interest of the child. Unfortunately, many lawyers do not work for "free", and those who do will not often work against an agency like Children's Aid. If you know of a local free drop-in area for lawyer advice (most poorer neighbourhoods have one), they should be able to at least give you some options.

Also, if a family member can be found who wants to adopt the children, they are given priority over the foster care family (as long as they don't have a criminal record). The family members are also given money from the same, similar to the foster family. Also, for a last resort, if the mother has not yet had her parenting rites legally taken, she can normally still find an adoptive family for her children through private adoption. I know that this isn't the best case scenario, but at least she can choose an open adoption with someone she trusts.

Also, in my friend's case, the social worker told my friend she would never see her son again. She said that she was placing the child in a "real family". I heard her say this, and I still cannot believe she was so cruel and heartless!

[Rayma]

The judge has ordered child services to give the older child back, but they haven't yet. That was almost a month ago.

Child services latest charges have been proven false. It turns out that the younger child has a rare chromozonal disorder called Di George Snydrome. Child services drug their feet about fiding out what was wrong. And about proper medical care after they found out.

CPS Watch, Inc. is an organization who monorters child protective services for abuses of power. At this time they are only in two states, but are looking for someone to start a CPS Watch, Inc. group in every state.

It sounds like a good programe. It's vollionter work, I think.

If you know someone who needs the info they provide or who wants to start a chapter have them to comtact them at.

http://www.cpswatch.com/oldsite/

or if the person doesn't have a computer one will be provided for the chapter along with the internet fee. Or use this address for info.

CPS Watch Inc.
168B Fall Creek Dr.
P.O. Box 974
Branson, MO 65615-0974

[Rayma]

I tesytified to what I personnly saw and heard in court. Again CPS made false claims about the case. My niece's lawyer caught their lies and proved it. The judge let CPS walk all over her civil and constiontutioal rights. For ex: They mocked her religion, which is main stream. And CPS denied the disabled child medical atention. Which the judge also allowed.

The court documents do not match the findings and conclusions of the law. So The judge took perental rights away, buy dismissing the facts in the case. The case is in an appeal process.

Both the CPS and the jugde did a disservice to this wonderful, loving family.

I heard that every case that comes before him CPS aways wins.

He calls himself a Christian. But he will not even return calls from anyone, even his friends that disagree with his dission.

[2littleones]

well.....sorry tht your nieces children are going through all this, but
i know from my own experience tht you are not getting the whole story from your niece. ss got involved for a reason, and then they made requirements on your niece for treatments mandated, and yes you can do everything they demand, and yet make no progress. the reports can seem good from the professional, but you can be compliant, and make no progress. this is how i have 2 baby boys, i am a relative of the mom, i side w/mom at first but she signed a release and i got everything, and what she told me over the phone was horrific, and unjust, cruel, they were ruining her life, but.......the reports i had in my hands, and read with my own eyes allllllllll of them, were not what she would tell me was on them as she read them to me, she would send me parts of the court orders(they looked complete), i did feel sorry for her, but her quest switched from babies and getting to raise them to .....constant complaining about the state, lies, corruption, she put all her time into getting ss workers reported all the way up the line, but.....if she was that smart, why not refocus and fix
herself so she can be their mommie?

[Rayma]

I'm sorry that that was your experience but I was there during the visits and in court. I have read all the paperwork and I know for a fact that they stold her children. I requested gaurdenship of the children before she went to court and they never checked me out and I was told by CPS that they had no intention of giving her back her children or letting anyone in the family have them. This statement is also in the court records.

[2littleones]

sorry, that your niece has been throught so much, but she has to do more if she wants her kids back, what? i do not know, but our babies birthmother and father, complained, complied (FATHER), mother didn't do everything, but even with the father complying, he nor the mother could provide a safe place for the children, and about the ss not checking you out........they don't have to, when you niece was asked about you after the ss worker was contacted by you........her impression of you is really taken to heart.......your niece may have not chosen her words carefully, maybe tired from a long day plus everything else going on, but other family members from the father's side came to ask for the kids........the mothers words blocked all of them and the mother told me she put in a good word for them but
what she told me........(she felt was the right things to say) and what i heard in her tone......pausing.........words chosen.......THE STATEMENTS: SHE FELT SOUNDED RIGHT
WHAT I HEARD, AND TRIED TO CONVEY TO HER: WERE TOTALLY DIFFERNT INTERPATIONS. SORRY

[riley6]

We were licensed foster parents, approved by the state to foster kids in state care. My niece came up for adoption and we submitted our home study to be considered to adopt her. We were turned down and she moved from her foster home into an adoptive home with strangers. She was 9 yrs old. We were told that the other home was a better match for her. I THOUGHT that family was supposed to have first consideration when a family member becomes available for adoption, but I found out it's up to the sw in 'charge' of the child. It looks like, unfortunately, you found out the same thing. The system sucks big time!

[2littleones]

you may have miss understood.......
i did not have a bad ordeal w/ ss wrkr.
birthmother said one thing and paperwork proved different.
i had simpathy for birth mother, but not know......i have a lifetime ahead of me w/ 2 babies under 3 to try to help heal by loving them and teaching them that love is not hurting.

[Rayma]

My neice's children were never abused or neglected. I have seen with my own eyes that they were not.

[Houdini]

In response to children services stealing children in Lancaster, Ohio. I think that you need to investigate with the police department to get copies of the calls to the police that people made about your nieces children and also get copies of the calls to the police your niece has made. I agree with one of the other people who answered this posting. I doubt your niece has given you the full story. Unfortunately, there is no way for you verify as you cannot access all the court records. I suspect your niece is just showing you what she wants you to see. Instead of condemning an agency (CPS) without having all the facts, have your niece sign a waiver giving you permission to all the records the courts have. In one your posting you said you knew for a fact that the children were never abused because you have seen for yourself. I don't understand how you could have seen this if you live in TN and she lives in OH. Another way of verification is to have your niece sign a release giving you access to the medical records for any visits to the emergency room. Be advised, it is not safe for any of the parties involved (you, mom, or the kids) if you take one persons version without verifying. It can lead to detrimental results( death of the kids if she does actually have issues). Don't put your reputation on line unless you have all these factors. If she refuses to let you have access to this information, then you know there actually is a problem. Good luck in whatever decision you make, just be sure you can deal with any consequences.

[Rayma]

I was in Ohio and saw for myself what was going on. I have talked to professionals and all but CPS said that there was no reason for the children to have ever taken. In court CPS"s witness's said that her children should not have been taken. I was There. The only people who said anything negative about my niece was the CPS workers and they got caught in numerious lies by my nieces atty. And she has given me permission to check thing out. I have been doing so.