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Old 03-01-2004, 09:07 PM
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Question Is non-identifying info reliable?

I am not sure what to believe other than my husband was adopted in Indiana 7/28/66 and we are not sure what else to believe? I need some assistance......
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Old 03-02-2004, 07:43 AM
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maybe.....

Sometimes non-id is very reliable, mine was, sometimes not. I was actully able to locate my b-family from the info. I have seen posted on this forum that some non-id is very unreliable. I think it depends on the b-parent, the caseworker etc. I would advise you to try to use the info and see where it leads, at worst you will have wasted some time and effort.

I did my search by using the non-id and what I knew to be facts (place and approximate time of birth) and was able to come up with solid info. I used geneology sites, local libraries, and the kindness of many strangers-on this board and off.

Some times things that were non-indentifing in the 1960's, are very telling now. No one anticipated the internet then.

Non-id seems to be luck of the draw, but it will give you a place to start. Keep in mind non-id info is just that non-identifiing.


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Old 03-02-2004, 08:09 AM
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It's really hit and miss, and it seems the further back you go, the more the information is "doctored".

I was born in 1975, and even my information was off. It was little details. I had my original non-ID that was given to my parents at the time of adoption, and then I got my non-ID again in 2003. The information given to me in 2003 was taken straight off the information written down by my birthfamily. From the 1975 ID the weights, heights, hair/eye colors were off by a little. (So it seems they just made up the information given to me in 1975.)

It also said something about my bmom's siblings going to college - but she was second to the oldest of 7 and was a sophomore in highschool, so it's obvious none were in college.

If the non-ID was given to you recently, you can trust it for the most part. But there's always the possibility that the birthfamily themselves lied on the forms - which has happened also.

Sorry if I just confused you more!
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Welcome to the Search and Reunion Message Board!

Some non-id reports are 100% accurate and others are part truth and part fabrication and a few reports have no truth at all in them. However, most reports that are not 100% accurate do have enough truth in them to still find the person that you are looking for.

Also, some people that have birth names have to consider that the name of the birthmother may be an alias, or a step parents surname or a former married name. There are many variations.
It's a matter of sorting out the truths from the untruths. For instance, does the non-id say the birthmother is French, Irish and English but she gave her maiden name as Stubinski? You could probably consider that she might be using an alias as the name does not match the country of origin.

The ages of the birth grandparents might not be accurate as many teenaged birth parents might not actually know the year of birth of their parents. The ages of siblings is generally accurate.




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I found my birthmother IN SPITE OF my Non-ID information. As it turned out, there was almost nothing true about it anyway (other than the information about my adoptive parents!)

There was nothing useful on there that could have helped me find her anyway, but the general details they gave were downright WRONG!!

It was so wrong, in fact, that my birthmother was in tears when she heard the lies that were told about her in the Petition for Adoption and attached reports (which was pretty much all my Non-ID consisted of). In my case I think so many things were falsified because it was a private adoption which meant that the lawyer and intermediaries could pretty much say whatever they wanted because they didn't have to answer to anyone!
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Ameelou,
I was adopted in Indiana in 1964 and the non-identifying information that I received from the state in 1994 was absolutely 100% accurate -- although it really didn't tell me anything that I didn't know before. It contained ten points of "fact" for me to have and hold as my own....each as banal as the fact that I was born a "white female" -- like I hadn't figured out that fact on my own in 30+ years of living!! LOL
I wish you and your husband the best of luck. I am still in Indiana, so if there is anything I can ever do to help you, let me know!
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We could use some help if you could give us some pointers?
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STATE ADOPTION SPECIALIST:
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Indiana Division of Family and Children
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402 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor, W-364
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 232-4622
Toll Free: (888) 204-7466
Fax: (317) 232-4436

ACCESSING ADOPTION RECORDS:
Obtaining Non-Identifying Information: Adopted adults, birth parents, and adoptive parents may obtain non-identifying information. Contact the adoption agency that facilitated the adoption to request this information.

Obtaining Identifying Information: Identifying information is provided through an Adoption Registry.

Using a Confidential Intermediary: This service is provided through the registry and the State of Indiana will search for, locate and contact the person that you are looking for. However, be aware that if the person does not want contact that you will not be given the identifying information to contact them yourself. There is also a fee associated with this service.

Using the Adoption Registry: For adoptions finalized before December 31, 1993, birth parents or adopted adults can request identifying information, which will be released only if consent is given from the party who is the subject of the request. If consent is not already on file, a confidential intermediary may be appointed. For adoptions finalized after December 31, 1993, adopted adults age 21 or older will receive identifying information on the birth parents if the birth parents have not filed an affidavit requesting non-disclosure at the time the adopted adult request is made. Adopted adults age 21 or older, adoptive parents of a minor, and birth siblings age 21 or older can request identifying information, which will be released if consent is given from the party who is the subject of the request. If no consent is on file, the State registrar will search for other birth siblings if they are 21 or older to see if they consent.

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Attn: Registrar, Vital Records Division
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Indianapolis, IN 46206
(317) 383-6280

Obtaining an Original Birth Certificate: An adoptee must petition the court in which the adoption was finalized to receive.

Providing Information: Medical, non-identifying, and identifying information can be provided by adopted adults, birth parents, adoptive parents, birth siblings, and, under certain circumstances, the spouse or a relative of a deceased adopted adult or a deceased birth parent.




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