[FAYE56]

Hi everyone - I have a question

Does anyone know if back in the 50's were our birthmothers required to name the father on the birth certificate? Also, if she gave me a name would that be on the original birth certificate or would it say "baby girl"?

I petitioned the court for my original birth certificate but it wasn't in my file - so there wasn't anything for the judge to give me - yes the judge did give me bmother's info but there wasn't any information in the file regarding bfather.

Yes, I found bmother - but she doesn't want a reunion and won't give up bfathers name, so I'm back at square 1



Faye

[loveajax]

Faye, my DH was born in 1966. He finally got his OBC here in Massachusetts. It did not list any name for the father and also I think it said "Baby Boy." He has contacted his birth mom and has not heard back from her (I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any real desire to find his birth dad, but it stinks that he couldn't if he wanted to). Good luck!

[MixedBliss]

That's interesting. I wonder if your OBC is in the regular (unsealed) documents with the Court Clerk's office. Can you ask them to search by relevant date? That would be awesome!

Your OBC would give any name you were officially given. Otherwise, it would say "baby girl <lastname>".

In the time frame you're looking at, if the birthmother was married, you were considered the child of her husband - no matter who your genetic father was, so his name would likely be on your OCB. As far as I know, it wasn't otherwise required to name a father. A friend's OBC just says "unknown".

That's the scoop for my birthstate anyway (Illinois).

[dpen6]

WOW..I can't beleive your OBC wast in there.

I petitoned the court and I Think I got all the information....my OBC was part of it.

I wondere if using the court order you could go back and request the OBC?

[FAYE56]

dpen6

Actually, I'm in NJ and adopted through the Catholic Charities. The Judge didn't authorize official release of any information. He gave me her name and origin "off the record". Had my OBC been there I don't know if he would've given it to me officially - I'm sure he would've given me the info off of it .

[loveajax]

I was on a "registry" online recently sort of looking for DD's birth sister (who also was adopted) and I just got really, really MAD and UPSET thinking that people have to go to these lenghts/may miss each other, etc. It's really infuriating. I hope every state changes its laws re: access to OBCs. Good luck, Faye. I'm sorry you don't have more info right now.

[dpen6]

Originally Posted by FAYE56

dpen6

Actually, I'm in NJ and adopted through the Catholic Charities. The Judge didn't authorize official release of any information. He gave me her name and origin "off the record". Had my OBC been there I don't know if he would've given it to me officially - I'm sure he would've given me the info off of it .

Oh, so your records were not officially opened up thats to bad. So ya got this big guy sitting there with his robes saying here is a smidgen.....go knock yourself out. WOW.

I wonder now that you have a name and called the office and just casualy asked for it...hmmm probably would not work...just a thought

[sstuart]

I did not have to name a father in the mid 80's and actually they discouraged it. They did not want to have to worry about getting his consent as well.

I don't understand bmother's not giving their child information. I will help my D search if she so desires. Maybe your mother doesn't know or she doesn't remember his name. Believe me it is amazing what we forget.

[kune]

I don't know about the 50's but when I relinquished my son in the late 60's I named him.....gave details and still when my bson received the birth certificate and papers, the father was not named or mentioned on the birth certificate. I think it was easier during that "swoop" error to believe that we were wayward girls who got ourself into a predicament and the less people involved the better (my twist on no father's name). In the early 70's when single parent welfare was introduced, there was a good reason for the state to identify the fathers as they became liable for parental payments.

My thoughts
Ann

[jrainbow]

I'm sure they were not required to name fathers on the birthcertificate in the 50's. We were adopted in Mo, the land of sealed records, so of course OBC is out of the question. But, my sister found her bmom over 10 years ago during the early days of searching the internet for people. When they met, she asked about her bdad and bmom wouldn't give it up. My sister said, I found you using the non-id info, I'll just find him. Bmom said you can't - I lied about him. After so long, it kind of appears that she isn't sure and won't guess. Sometimes you just can't know.

[FAYE56]

thanks everyone,

but I still don't understand - if you don't know say so, if you don't remember say so -
she told me "I'd rather not go there"..............

the funny thing about this whole not telling me who my bfather is ----------- her "secret" is sooooo out there now. I've posted here, on classmates and mailed letters to men who appeared in the Engagement/Wedding announcements that fit the description of my non-id.

I haven't had any luck -but the "secrets" not so much a secret any more. If she had given me the name - I would've quietly searched for him.

Thanks for all your imput

Faye

[FAYE56]

jrainbow

I'd still question your sisters Bmoms statement about lying about the birthfather, she probably said that so she wouldn't look any further -

my bmom was raised all through Catholic School and delivered me at a Catholic Hospital - she was counseled by Nuns - I got a postcard from her after I sent her a letter requesting the name of my bfather - the response back was "whatever you were told is false"

I just don't see a young woman strictly raised in the Catholic religion lying to Nuns about the circumstances surrounding the conception - most especially since she's thousands of miles away from home for delivery of the baby.

I hope you sister finds her bfather

[my2sons]

I was wondering if anyone would know the answer to this question. I have been searching for my birthfamily forever and I was wondering if an adoption in 1964 was private and the birthmom and a parents went before a judge. Would there have to be an OBC. The only bc i have has all my aparents info on it. I was born in 1964 in Montana

[RavenSong]

Originally Posted by my2sons

I was wondering if anyone would know the answer to this question. I have been searching for my birthfamily forever and I was wondering if an adoption in 1964 was private and the birthmom and a parents went before a judge. Would there have to be an OBC. The only bc i have has all my aparents info on it. I was born in 1964 in Montana

The birth certificate your aparents received is called an "amended birth certificate." It would have been issued at the time your adoption was finalized. Yes, you do have an "original birth certificate", often referred to as an OBC, which would have been placed on file with Montana's state department of vital records at the time of your birth. This record is sealed, however, and you'll probably have trouble obtaining it. You'll need a court order to unseal it.