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Old 04-30-2004, 04:25 AM
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Post UNsealing Adoption Records

WE AS ADOPTEES need to come together as a DISCRIMINATED segragated people, and turn to the Civil RIGHTS union! I am from Florida, and have send a request to my State Civil Rights office, and the Attorney General.

MY SINGLE voice may be DISregarded (TIME will tell), but IF ALL of us, FROM EVERY State appeal TOGETHER...HOW can we be ignored?

These records are OUR 'Birth Right'! WHY should ANY 0ne have the 'RIGHT' to deny or OBJECT to OUR RIGHT to KNOW?

I'm not that 'computer literate' to do it, but if ANYONE on this forum knows how to draw up a petition for all of us to sign, and forward to the UNITED States Attorney General & Civil RIGHTS Union...I will gladly be the FIRST to sign it!
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Old 04-30-2004, 06:58 AM
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Our Birthright

I agree with you 100%! But like you I am a computer illiterate. There has to be an adoptee out there that is not only computer literate but also maybe a lawyer etc.?

Please someone help give us our right to our records!
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Old 04-30-2004, 07:00 AM
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I agree 100% with you. Like you I am a computer illiterate. There must be an adoptee out there that is computer literate with legal experience.

Someone out there please HELP!

I would be the second one to sign it!
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Old 04-30-2004, 02:10 PM
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I found this link for you to check out

This may help all of us.....I did it a while ago..forgot i had it...good luck...Mark
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/R.../petition.html
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Old 04-30-2004, 07:36 PM
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THANK YOU! I have printed the petition, and I will do EVERY thing in my power to get as many signatures as I can. And, I HOPE that EVERY one on this website will come together for the GOOD of ALL of us, and do the same. Do I send these to you, or WHO? I live in Florida, but, I want to make this a FEDERAL case, as well as state.

If I get other people to sign one petitions, can we use photocopies to send to one of the two governments, or do they BOTH have to be originals.

PLEASE let me know!

GOD bless ALL of us!

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Old 05-01-2004, 03:31 AM
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Instructions for petitions

The Federal ones need to be sent to the address found at the end of this page. Lewis Kincaid is the maker of this petition and is currently working with a State Senator from the State of Nevada whom he will forward all Federal and Nevada State Petitions too.You will need to find a State Legislator that you could work with for your own State. Then when you reach a desired amount of filled out and signed forms agreed upon with that State Legislator then you would turn all of the petitions for your state in to that person. If you have problems locating someone in your state, you can do a search on the web under that certain state or email me and I will do my best to locate an address and or phone number for you.

PLEASE SEND ALL FEDERAL AND NEVADA STATE PETITIONS TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS
LEWIS KINCAID
P.O. BOX 27
DAYTON, NEVADA. 89403

This Petition Is To Be Copied Off, Signed And Mailed To The Government Agencies, To Whom You Feel Would Be The Best Representative To Present It To........

This Is To Help Change The Laws On Local State And Federal Level's........

Email Lewis Kincaid
Visit Lewis Kincaid's adoption web site

The next post will have the petition for all to copy or print.
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Old 05-01-2004, 03:33 AM
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Petition to print

""PETITION"" OPENING OF ALL ADOPTION RECORDS
... ABOUT THE PETITION

WE THE PEOPLE, BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL BIRTHRIGHT TO KNOW THEIR BIOLOGICAL HERITAGE AND HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THEIR ORIGINAL BIRTH RECORDS,WHETHER IT BE THE ADOPTEE, BIRTH PARENT, OR ADOPTIVE PARENT.

WE URGE EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF GOVERNMENT, ON THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL TO:

1. LEARN ABOUT THE FAR-REACHING EFFECTS OF ADOPTION ON ADOPTEES, BIRTH PARENTS, AND ADOPTIVE PARENTS - FOR GENERATIONS TO COME; AND

2. SUPPORT MORE ENLIGHTENED AND FAIR LEGISLATION FOR LEGALLY OPENING OF SEALED ADOPTION RECORDS; AND

3. CONSIDER AND SUPPORT LEGISLATION TO ENSURE EQUITABLE TREATMENT TO ALL INVOLVED IN AN OPEN ADOPTION; AND

4. BY SEALING ADOPTION RECORDS, IT IN TURN PREVENTS AN ADULT ADOPTEE FROM KNOWING HIS OR HER MEDICAL, CULTURAL, AND RELIGIOUS HISTORY; AND

5. FURTHERMORE, RESULTS FROM A CONTRACT MADE BETWEEN OTHER PARTIES, IN WHICH THE ADOPTEE HAD NO CONSENT IN THE CONTRACT AND AT THE LEGAL AGE OF MAJORITY, SAID CONTRACT SHOULD BE ABOLISHED AND RENDERED AS NULL AND VOID FROM THAT POINT ON........ AND NO LONGER BE BINDING TO ANY PARTIES,INCLUDING THE ADOPTEE; AND

6. DENYING ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR ROOTS AND BIRTH RIGHTS AND HISTORIES, WAS FIRST LEGALIZED IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THE PRACTICE OF SLAVERY, BUT WAS OUTLAWED IN THE 19TH CENTURY: AND

"THAT WE DO FAVOR THE OPENING OF ALL ADOPTION RECORDS"

BY BIRTH PARENTS, ADOPTIVE PARENTS, AND THE ADOPTEE THEMSELVES.....

WHEN THE ADOPTEE REACHES THE AGE OF ADULTHOOD, " WHICH WOULD BE, WHEN THE ADOPTEE REACHES MAJORITY AGE" WHICHEVER IS APPLICABLE TO THE APPROPRIATE STATE LAWS, UNLESS, ONE OR BOTH BIRTH PARENTS HAVE COMMITTED A PHYSICAL, OR MENTAL ACTION AGAINST THE ADOPTEE WHICH RESULTED IN PHYSICAL OR MENTAL HARM TO SAID ADOPTEE...

AT THAT POINT, ONLY, WHERE ABUSE DID OCCUR BY BIRTH PARENTS, SAID ADOPTEE WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED OF BIRTH PARENTS SEARCH, AND FULL APPROVAL OF SAID ADOPTEE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR BIRTH PARENT TO ATTAIN ANY CONTACT WITH ADOPTEE OR ANY FURTHER INFORMATION TO BE GIVEN FROM STATE AGENCIES....

IN THE EVENT THAT AN ADOPTEE WAS ABUSED, IT WOULD BE THE ADOPTEE'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO SEEK FOR HIS OR HER BIRTH PARENT'S.

AT NO TIME WILL ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY STAND, STAY, STOP, OR HINDER THE ADOPTEES, THE BIRTH PARENT'S, OR THE ADOPTIVE PARENT'S RIGHT IN SEEKING OUT THE OTHER, RESPECTIVELY.....

WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF MEDICAL TREATMENT; AND

THAT, EVERY YEAR MANY ADOPTEE'S DIE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROGRAM TO ASSIST THEM IN FINDING VALUABLE HEALTH INFORMATION..... THESE DEATHS CAN BE AVOIDED BY ALLOWING THE OPENING OF ALL ADOPTION RECORDS... WHEN THE SAID ADOPTEE REACHES MAJORITY AGE.....

NAME.............................................. .................................................. ............................................

ADDRESS........................................... .................................................. ........................................

PHONE NUMBER............................................ ...............

DATE OF BIRTH............................................. ...............

PLACE OF BIRTH............................................. .................................................. ..............................

CITY OF BIRTH............................................. ...............

STATE OF BIRTH............................................. ...............

HOW ARE YOU AFFECTED BY ADOPTION.......................................... .................................................. ........................................

ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .............................................
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Old 05-01-2004, 09:10 AM
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If you are able to find someone to draw one for you. My family will
sign it. My husbend is an adoptee and we have been looking for 3 yrs and found out his is seeled. Good look and keep us posted.
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Response to email to Attorney General

I mentioned in my original post on this thread, that I have emailed the Attorney General in my State (Florida).

I received a response from his office, directing me to another link. People in Florida, should look into this link, and MAYBE if enough of us show the same interest in accessing our adoption records, REGARDLESS of WHATEVER reason...MAYBE we will be heard.

In this website, there is an email address that is probably a GOOD place to send these petitions in Florida.

Check out the following link...(http://www.adoptflorida.com/)[/url]. Other States, try the link using YOUR state, instead of Florida. NOT sure if it will work for ALL States.

See what you think, and EVERY one who is interested, we can ALL petition together by emailing the petition above, to the same email address AT THE SAME TIME. IF that doesn't at least open a door for us, then we will have to go another route.

ANY thing is WORTH a try! WHAT else have we got to lose?

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Old 05-02-2004, 06:27 PM
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Unhappy Lewis Kincaid Website & Email address

I tried to access Lewis Kincaid's website...resulting in a "NOT available' message.

I tried emailing him at the e-dress link above...it came back as 'UNdeliverable'!

ANY other suggestions????
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Cool sealed records

I think your really on to something here!!!I hope I can help..Let me know as soon as possible...like you I to hail from a backwords thinking state!Of course the great state of california would never admit that it is your birthright to know what your heritage is. i am very new at this computer game but learning fast!!!
sealed records about your life it sounds like a joke but we all know it's really a NIGHTMARE Ilook forward to hearing any input from my fellow adoptees....GOD BLESS YOU ALL......
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:39 AM
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A link for you to check

Outcast, click on the attached link. There will be another link which you find your local or state representatives. Once you have their names you can send all of your petitions to those people.
Good Luck, Mark

http://www.florida.gov/

All other states just subsitute your state for Florida....
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Talking pettition

I agree 100% as well. my adoption agency said it would cost $500 to put a note in the "file" and if my ** wanted to contact me they would give her the note. I want to meet her but if not then I just want medical info, no one seems to be able to help me. I am also computer illiterate but I'm learning.
Please send me the info on the web site for the Attorney General and I wll sign it with BIG LETTERS.

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