[kretzklan]

In Colorado, you must complete a "validation of foreign adoption" and then you can apply for a state birth certificate. Most folks here do it on their own...but I STILL do not want to do paperwork in any form, so we are looking for an attorney. Most family law folks I have called simply say they don't know enough about the process to help us. But, yesterday I called a man that was such a rude, arrogant butthead that I got off the phone shaking with fear and anger. He starts out by telling me that 90% of foreign adoptions are illegal. That parents don't "really" give up rights, so legally the children are stolen. Then he tells me that because our adoption was finalized in a foreign court, the children aren't "ours". I explained that the US government recognizes the adoption - they are citizens, have passports from US, have SSN, have citizenship papers - we had to go through the US embassey in Moscow. Really, I just should have hung up. I guess I was hoping to educate him in some way. He then informs me that he is adopting the "right" way - domestic newborn. At this point I wanted to tell him not to - please don't pass along your idiot gene to a child. I had to ask D to get dressed and he said "be careful taking her out in public, she could be taken away"..."I guess she'd go to foster care...but what a burden to have a foreign child in our system".
Just the rudest things I've ever heard. I then excused myself and got off the phone. I should have been ruder...but my kids were near-by. I almost feel like writing him a letter. Strangely enough this is the son of our attorney (the man who does our wills, etc.)...this man is an adoption attorney. I tried to guide him to the website from the state with the information, he wanted nothing to do with it.
OMG...what should I do? Maybe nothing?

[BrandyHagz]

Isn't it frustrating when someone who has never experienced IA first hand subscribes to stupid sterotypes and whatnot?

I know it frustrates me when I read similar comments about domestic adoption made by those who have done little more than heard 3rd and 4th hand 'horror stories'.

Some people aren't interested in education - but they are interested in being heard...just nod, laugh and remember that if they are stupid enough to believe that...think of all the other crap they must think they know - then be glad you didn't hire him to be your attorney!

[pwnort64]

That is ridiculous. Is there some place you can lodge a complaint against him...maybe with the BAR association or something? Wouldn't it be great if you could have a conversation with the social worker doing his homestudy?

[MamaChinch]

I agree with Paula, if he dissimenating wrong information, you should complain. And, find another attorney!!

[another2]

As an attorney, I know that we (as a profession) are held to really strict ethical standards. I cannot begin to understand what his problem is (since we APs all know he is WAY wrong!), but considering the threatening nature of his comments (taking your children away), I would definitely report him to the Colorado state bar association.

It's attorneys like that that give us all a bad name!

[Drazil]

Call the Bar Association and ask for the grievance department! He is in a position to spread misinformation and should be set straight for sure, file a complaint!!!!

[votemom]

i'm sorry kretz. i think i can imagine the outrage you must have been feeling. i would have been shaking too.

i just got off the phone after scheduling our court appearance to get our state birth certificate. it has been SO fun starting paperwork again - ugh!

[crick]

I'd report to the bar and I would also let his dad know. Not as a "tattle to the parent" but if his dad is referring him to others he needs to know exactly what he's referring. My brother is an attorney and he would want to be sure that his clients he refers to others are treated as they should be.

[angelkisses0102]

How horrible! He needs a good

[GCS]

I would agree with the other posters. Report him and find a new attorney.
If you dont report him who knows how much wrong information he will pass along to others who maybe just dont know any different and consider him an expert.

[SingleMiamiMom]

I say the same thing about doctors..so attorney's take no offense...

There are attorneys who graduated with an A...and there are attorneys who graduated with a D. Sounds like this one was in the latter group.
Stupidity runs in all walks of life and in all occupations...best off not dwelling on this loser and find someone informed who can help you. You can't stop stupidity in the world...LOL

[Bcelli]

DO NOT let this fool get away with this crap. Report him to the bar immediately. Don't know how that would affect your relationship with his Dad, but this guy is absolutely in the wrong line of law and needs to be hospitalized and given a few rounds of electroconvulsive therapy. Geez!!!!!

[DET62]

Complaining is not enough. You have to take business away from that awful son AND the father before that crap will stop. I've been a paralegal 23 years and the only way to hit an attorney so it hurts is to threaten their $$$ supply.

Tell the father [in a letter] everything the son said, and the reasons why what he said was wrong. In one paragraph, state how upset you were by the conversation. Copy the son, and the state bar association [call for the right address]. End the letter by stating that you will not only not use the son's services, you won't use the father's, either, and you will tell everyone you know what a horror the son is and that neither of their firms should EVER be used again. Make sure the father knows he is on the hook, too, for his awful son. Call the better business bureau, and copy them, too.

Dee

[orenmommy]

wow, i'm so sorry you had to deal with this! how aweful ! hope you get the help you need soon.
Toria

[ddahl]

Let me know if you want to saddl eup and take a six shooter along! I am so exhausted that a good "donkey " whooping might make me feel better! What a total loser!