[punch1]

Sort of surprisng that no one is talking about the latest accredidation delay. As many of you know March 21st was the end of the 90 day limit for Russia's MOE to do something with those first agencies who applied for reaccredidation on December 20th last year.

Well the latest is that MOE, through the MOJ, is now asking every agency to submit documentation that each state they work in has laws in place that will protect and treat an adopted child the same as a natural born citizen. This really is unnecessary because, by federal law, all adopted children are citizens when they first come here.

Puzzling. I'm not sure what to make of it.

[beckyww]

Sounds like a stall tactic.

Becky
The Woodworth Family in Beautiful San Antonio TX

[Amysue1112]

Hi Jessica,
I have not heard of this since we have completed our adoption...but it probably has not been posted b/c this type of thing (not exactly, but same stupid new laws) has been going on for years. We got stuck in the same type of re-accreditation nightmare in 2004-2005..and I really thought we would never bring a child home. But FINALLY our dreams came true last summer. I know it is terribly hard but if you really feel in your heart your child is in Russia...stay with it even if it looks like things are stachked against you.

I am so sad to see your signature too...I can't IMAGINE dealing with what you went through. I hope and pray that your process is easier than it was the domestic route.

One thing you can be sure..when you are on that plane coming home your child is yours forever and ever!! Hang in there...

[sarah_h]

Hi punch1,

I've found that this forum doesn't discuss the accreditation delays nearly as much as FRUA chat -- not sure why. In fact, I sometimes think I must be one of the only people on this forum who is stuck waiting because of all this stuff! I'm glad to hear there are others out there.

[waiter]

Sarah_H - You took the words out of my mouth. I often feel the same way. My experience is that each online site has it's own personality. I think being on a variety gives a good balance and can help find the answers/support we need. You are NOT alone... Here's hoping the latest request from the MOE does not create yet another extended delay for many of us.

[kimber413]

Originally Posted by sarah_h

Hi punch1,

I've found that this forum doesn't discuss the accreditation delays nearly as much as FRUA chat -- not sure why. In fact, I sometimes think I must be one of the only people on this forum who is stuck waiting because of all this stuff! I'm glad to hear there are others out there.

I think this site tends to be more on the process and after effects of adoptions, while FRUA seems to be more about problems and negative issues surrounding adoption. Also, FRUA leans a bit toward the rumor and gossip side. That's been my experience, anyway.

[catmele]

Just wanted to let you know.. I am with you in the waiting process... one year so far waiting for the call! Supposely we do not need accreditation for our adoption since we were registered before it expired but I really have my doubts.

[cathvash]

Hi fellow "ladies (and men) in waiting". I am glad to see this post. Actually, there has been a lot of discussion on this site about the accreditation issues since last May 17th, but you are correct in that there has not been much posted over the last couple of months. I guess everyone has gotten frustrated and collectively, somehow, we all decided to take a break. It's time to re-group!

My agency is waiting for reaccreditation, and I am working forward through a partially "independent" process to complete my adoption. This is not something that is generally available, but there are a few agencies and regions that are trickling people through this way. I don't have a lot of faith in the process, so like you, I wait for accreditations with a heavy heart.

My understanding is that the new requirement may indeed be a stalling tactic. According to what I have read elsewhere, it is coming through the Ministry of Justice, which is now headed by a man who has a history of anti-international adoption activities. That said, if this is a stall tactic it is my personal belief that he is fighting a losing battle on this one. After the agencies comply (which of course is doable - just requires jumping through the hoop and getting the required State documents) he will be hard-pressed to stall much more without being blatently not in compliance with the two-month requirements he is under to review these applications. Of course, it is possible he is not stalling but is genuinely concerned about the "justice" aspects protecting these children and is unaware of the Federal law that grants them the same rights and privileges as biological children. If so, he should be very quickly convinced, and we can move forward...

Let's hope this is the last piece and the last "hoop"!!!

[Katie63011]

I would encourage those actively in process to read the FRUA board. They have a ton of information out about reaccreditation etc. I am on my third adoption and have always found the information posted very current and factual. I have found this board to be very inactive in the last six months or so when it comes to current facts and information about accreditation etc.

[pequele]

Are these new(ish) accreditation requirements just for the US? What are other countries required to do and are they having as much of a problem/stallouts as the states?

[Amysue1112]

Oh Katie, did I just completely forget that you were adopting #3 or did I just not know?? Either way, GOOD LUCK!!!

Back when all the chaos from re-accrediation occured in 2004-2005 this forum was CRAZY with info. There was soo much speculation, and so many riding the roller-coaster of rumors vs facts. So like those said above, I think people are taking a break from "talking" it. But I assure you you are not alone...there are SOO many familes in the same boat. Maybe people are restraining from posting until they KNOW what they are posting is true and what effect it will have on families. I know you guys are so hungry for any info you can find (I know we were..we almost got stuck in this last accreditation/NGO mess also)..just be careful what you read. I completely FREAKED so many times only to find the info was false.

I hope you guys get good news soon!!! For you..and for the children waiting.

[cathvash]

I agree that traffic seems to be down on this site over the last few months, but many, many people are still here - just stalled with the Accreditation issues, or holding back from entering the Russian program until the water clears, and not posting. Look at the number of views for this topic!

I post on different sites, and it's always a tough call on whether to post or not about this mess. Sometimes when I have something that is "rumor" I post it anyway depending on how credible I think it might be, though I do try to be clear what my source is. For example, even if I can't mention it by name I'll state the source as "my opinion" or "a PAP on another site has reported" or "my agency has shared" etc. I find that we are all highly anxious and starved for information, and sometimes reading what other folks are thinking and hearing, even if it's not "ironclad" truth is very helpful. Often, when I have posted "My agency emailed clients that..." someone else will share that their agency "has also confirmed...and added..." which tells me my rumor is more likely to be true. Sometimes I won't post if I have fears of saying too much that might jepardize my personal situation, or something that will get me FLAMED...

Guess what I am trying to say is that we NEED each other for information. We each get pieces of news from our agencies, from friends, from government sources etc., and we need people who are willing to post so we can try to put the puzzle pieces together from many sources.

I do think it's important that we post with some restraint, not being rudely critical of other countries, processes or opinions given by other people. Disagreement and criticism are part of a healthy process...It's the RUDE part that we need to avoid. BTW-This site is known for kindness... I hope we can keep up a current thread about re-accreditation news. It's just too important to not discuss!

[his,mine&ours]

Another not so patient waiter here. I am also an avid follower of FRUA for the latest in accreditation delays. We've had our referral for over 5 months now and need accreditation to occur so that we can make trip one.

Pequele- the newest paperwork is for all agencies, not just US.

[pequele]

Originally Posted by his,mine&ours

Pequele- the newest paperwork is for all agencies, not just US.

so if this is the case then what are the hold ups in other countries since they can't go to a "state" and ask for this additional paperworkk. it just seems strange to me that if it is our federal govt that makes the decisions on citizenship and NOT a state then what good is this new requirement?

Are there any people out there from Canada or Europe that know what is holding up their country's accred?

[billc112]

I would like to be more optimistic (believe me I would!), but can someone tell me how this might really be anything but a blatant delay tactic? The reason for it seems simply ridiculous -- esp. coming from a legal entity. It had been my understanding that Russian agencies usually do not simply ignore concrete, written deadlines like this.

Frankly we're thinking of either trying an independent adoption (anyone know if that could then be delayed by this same agency?) or reapplying to a new country (any suggestions?)