[carrie2adopt]

Hi, I've been looking through the (I'm not sure the correct term here)...but the photolistings of adoptable Russian children on what I think is the database (?). I'm trying to learn how it works for when I get my referral (which I hope is not too far off in the future) so that I can go back and search for any other pictures/info, etc. But, I can't read any of it, it's all in cryllic. Is there a free translation site where I can copy and paste the cryllic to be translated? I will be most interested in looking through the photos of infant girls in the Kemerovo region who are under 3 years old. But, I can't figure out how to do that.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

[kretzklan]

babelfish (do a search on the net) can translate entire web pages - if you can't find it - PM me...

[votemom]

this site will translate words, sentences, paragraphs:
http://translation.paralink.com/

this site will translate entire webpages:
http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/

this is a good resource for hearing words in russian:
http://www.livelaughlovelearn.com/gloss/

[mauserhaus]

be aware though, that there are a TON of kids still on the database site that are already in homes. My son is still on the site, and I know of others here that still have their children pictured there.

[beckyww]

Our Julia is still pictured in St. Pete, too. We've been home a month.

Becky
www.woodworthfamily.blogdrive.com

[Babydollkc]

Was wondering what the web-site is for the Russian Database.

Thanks

[MominPA]

My son is still on it too, although we was just recently adopted.

Here is the website.

http://www.usynovite.ru/

Click in the yellow are where it says

Банк данных о детях-сиротах and the data bank will appear and you can search using different parameters. For instance I found my son by selecting male, year of birth and region he was in. I tranlasted his month of birth and first name to Russian so I knew what to look for. Once I thought I found him, I then used bablefish to translate that webpage to confirm. It was a nice way to get a baby picture of him. I eventually got the same picture when brought him home.

When I used bablefish going from page to page didn't work. So that is why I figured out what to look for in Russian. It took me all of 5 minutes to find him.

Best wishes.

[k8c]

Where was that thread with the very articulate definition of the two different "databases"? Who explained it? Jim? Nunguesser? Mike? I think it was a man...Reading that might help people.

Basically, the one you can access online is not the official database. It lists only a fraction of the children who are available. It also lists children who are no longer available. And, it recycles photos...

[k8c]

Wait--scratch that. I think it might have been an FRUA thread.

[k8c]

From the FRUA boards (hope they won't mind...):

"Are you aware that there is more than one data bank? There is a regional data bank specific to the region you are adopting from, and there is a federal data bank for all of Russia. These data banks are not necessarily connected to each other, and they may have different rules about how they operate. In some cases, a region will enter a child on the regional data bank, and then enter the child on the federal data bank only after no family is found locally over a period of time (months). In other cases, the child may be entered on both data banks simultaneously and the required search times pass concurrently. Either way, a minimum period of time must pass on each data bank before foreign adoption is permitted. John Maclean's Russian Adoption Handbook describes all of this in a fair amount of detail, but the timeframes he lists are older (pre-2005) and thus too short.

Looking through our daughter's paperwork, it appears that we had to receive a letter from the local Department of Education (DoE) attesting that she was listed on the regional data bank for a certain period of time, as well as a letter from the federal Ministry of Education and Science (MoE) that indicated she was listed on the federal data bank for a qualifying period of time. We were caught in the 2004 federal release letter mess, so that was our primary concern at the time and why I learned all of this about the data banks.

(deleted information relevant to o-op for re-posting)

Additionally, the data base on the usynovite.ru site is probably only a partial reflection of the federal data bank (and not the data bank itself). So, while finding a child in that data base probably confirms that a child was listed at the federal level at some point, it tells you nothing about when that listing was made. Also, as Mom attested above, failing to find a child in that data base apparently is not proof that a child was never listed on the federal data bank. And either result likely says nothing at all about the child's status on the local (regional) data bank. "

and:

"Just want to summarize what (deleted for re-post) and I are saying (I think), there is the big federal databank and the internet database.

The database is not, apparently, directly linked to the databank. For legal purposes, the databank rules. The database, the one we can see, was part of a move to get more Russians to adopt. It is sporadically updated and maintained. On the other hand, the databank-- the one we cannot see -- is the structure that has the final say on when a child is eligible for foreign adoption and from whom we await release letters."

I found these explanations helpful. Hope someone else does, too!

Kate

[carrie2adopt]

Thanks everyone. I realize the databank is not up to date, but I'm sure I'll be very happy to have as many pictures as possible (if available) as soon as I get my referral. I'm not using it to look at now, just to figure out how it works so when the time comes, I know how to find my child.

So many heartbreaking faces. Wish I could take them all home. Thanks for the help.