[busterleroy]

Many of you may be familiar with Father John Corapi. For those of you who are not, he is an incredibly popular priest whose down-to-Earth messages are followed by millions of people all over the world each week. More information of Father Corapi follows – but first a link to his must-see election message for all Catholics. Thirty minutes in length, three ten minute YouTube segments. The second and third segments are …WOW. Powerful. Wow again.

One note – in 2004 he wrote an article for Catholics, called Form Your Conscience, Vote Your Conscience. It was downloaded more than ONE MILLION times.

Here is the link.
http://www.fathercorapi.com/election.aspx

About Father Corapi
Father Corapi became a priest late in life and the highs and lows of his life are fascinating. John Corapi was raised in upstate New York, the product of a broken home. He was first an outstanding athlete, then a dedicated soldier. He was so committed to serving his country that when an injury was going to prevent him from serving in Vietnam, he underwent intense physical therapy to condition himself for service in the army. When he left the military he became an accountant, working for one of the major accounting firms. He was hired away by one of their clients, the Tropicana casino in Las Vegas. In Las Vegas he began to enjoy living life in the fast lane. He was eventually appointed to the Las Vegas gaming control board. He lost that job when the governor who appointed him was not re-elected, so he moved to seek his fortunes in Hollywood. He hit it big in real estate, and began moving in inside Hollywood circles. In the early 1970s he was good friends with people like Tina Turner and dated a number of well-known movie actresses. He had a mansion with a 3,000 square foot master bedroom, a 60 foot Hatteras yacht and a Ferrari before Magnum PI made them popular. He was at Chevy Chase’s birthday party when one starlet introduced him to her ‘best friend’ – cocaine. Corapi soon became addicted, losing his millions and eventually living homeless on the streets of LA. He wound up in a VA psychiatric hospital for one year of his life.
His devoutly Catholic mother never gave up on her wayward son during these years of worldly excess. She finally mailed him a prayer card, and said ‘ You’ve tried everything else, why don’t you try praying?’ He complied, and his simple prayer led him back to his mother’s home. He recovered there, eventually returning to the Catholic Church and deciding he was called to the priesthood. He attended the seminary, and studied for ten years around the world, earning for additional degrees including a pontifical doctorate. He was ordained by Pope John Paul II.

[JillnChris]

"This is Bishop Rene H. Gracida, reminding all Catholics that they must vote in this election with an informed conscience. A Catholic cannot be said to have voted in this election with a good conscience if they have voted for a pro-abortion candidate. Barack Hussein Obama is a pro-abortion candidate."

Disgusting. There are many other issues than abortion. This is just another attempt to control people. And for the record Obama is not Pro-Abortion. I don't know anybody who is Pro-Abortion. Most people who want abortion to be legal just want it to be a choice between a woman and her doctor.
What would Catholics due of Rudy Guliani, a "pro-abortion" candidate were the GOP nominee? Not vote at all?

[binkybear]

Thank you to the OP. The simple fact of the matter is you either ARE catholic or you're not. Like another wise person in the church once said.... THE CAFETERIA IS CLOSED. You can not pick and choose what you like and what you don't like...if you don't like it find another faith to follow. It's your free will, its your faith, it's your soul if you belive in them. Catholics have an overwhelming responsibility to vote for life. Like so many other things in this world you can't have it both ways....or "your way"...this is not a hamburger.


If you don't agree, don't be Catholic. Not Catholic to begin with, go call some other religion disgusting... not MINE. Wondering out loud what "catholics would do" in some hypothetical point....don't worry yourself about it, we're doing just fine thank you very much.

“John Paul II clearly stated: “In the case of an intrinsically
unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to
obey it, or to ‘take part in a propaganda campaign in favour of such a law, or vote for it.”
73, Gospel of Life”

[BrandyHagz]

I find the designation of being "Pro-Abortion" disgusting as well.

It's like calling catholices "anti-a-womans-right-to-make-medical-decisions"

Neither are all the way totally true - but I have a feeling we'll continue to beat our heads against each other without wanting to give even a fraction of an inch.

I choose to be pro-choice, just as Catholics choose to be anti-choice. It sounds disgusting, huh?

[binkybear]

How about pro murder of a child and anti murder of a child. Probably not catchy enough either.

Again, don't be Catholic if it's not your thing. Easy Peasy

[BrandyHagz]

Haha!

I'm not 'pro-murder of a child' - I am 'pro a womans right to choose' just as you are 'anti a womans right to choose'.

I have nothing against catholics - again, it has nothing to do with faith - its about calling someone what they are. I claim to be 'pro-choice' which makes you 'anti-choice' just as you claim to be 'anti-abortion' which I guess makes me 'pro-abortion' - we just have two very different views

[kdecrow]

I'm a cradle Catholic. I do not believe in abortion, and never have. However, I would never criticize someone else's choice but I don't have to like it.

Yes, it was excruciating to have a baby at 17 and place him for adoption. Even more difficult to search for him 30 years later and find him deceased.

It was still worth it. I gave him a chance even if I had to throw myself under the bus. I loved my child from the moment he was conceived.

I now will have the opportunity to know his daughter - my granddaughter and only descendant. This would have never happened if I had aborted my child.

Painful, yes. But there is a silver lining.

It was still worth it.

Kim

[joskids]

doesn't mean you have to agree with everything the Catholic church teaches. I'm Catholic, I'm pro-choice. You can deny me all you want but I'm here and I'm not going anywhere. There are reasons I'm pro-choice that I don't need to explain to anyone who thinks they're a BETTER Catholic than I am. Just the same way you don't have to explain to me how to justify that God said "Thou Shall Not Kill" but war is OK with you and "Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery" but you would, then, what? Vote for an adulterer and still call yourself Catholic? Hmmm. I find that very interesting.

If you don't want to have an abortion, you have a right not to have one. You can still call yourself a Catholic and allow for someone else to make an informed decision about their own body.

With regards,
Josie (yes, the SAME OLE JOSIE)

[binkybear]

Originally Posted by BrandyHagz

Haha!

I'm not 'pro-murder of a child' - I am 'pro a womans right to choose' just as you are 'anti a womans right to choose'.

I have nothing against catholics - again, it has nothing to do with faith - its about calling someone what they are. I claim to be 'pro-choice' which makes you 'anti-choice' just as you claim to be 'anti-abortion' which I guess makes me 'pro-abortion' - we just have two very different views

No, I am definitly Anti Murder of a Child. (no laughing matter to me)

[binkybear]

Originally Posted by joskids

doesn't mean you have to agree with everything the Catholic church teaches. I'm Catholic, I'm pro-choice. You can deny me all you want but I'm here and I'm not going anywhere. There are reasons I'm pro-choice that I don't need to explain to anyone who thinks they're a BETTER Catholic than I am. Just the same way you don't have to explain to me how to justify that God said "Thou Shall Not Kill" but war is OK with you and "Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery" but you would, then, what? Vote for an adulterer and still call yourself Catholic? Hmmm. I find that very interesting.

If you don't want to have an abortion, you have a right not to have one. You can still call yourself a Catholic and allow for someone else to make an informed decision about their own body.

With regards,
Josie (yes, the SAME OLE JOSIE)

Wasn't me who said it.... "the cafeteria is closed"

[joskids]

I didn't see anyone's name in my post but my own. Just in case that last comment was intended for me by anyone.

[RavenSong]

So, BinkyBear, are you the official bouncer or doorman for the Catholic Church? There are millions of Catholics who don't agree 100 percent with official church doctrine or policy.

The last time I checked, we weren't an exclusive club. Please don't presume to tell any of us that we have no business being Catholic. I have just as much right to attend Mass as you do.

Silly me... all these years, I thought that the focus of the Church was on our Lord, Jesus Christ. I wasn't aware that I'm not entitled to call myself Catholic unless I vote the way the Vatican wants me to vote. As everybody is always pointing out, our country is a democracy, not a theocracy.

[joskids]

Just thought I'd point out that "theoretically" (and theologically), the Catholic church belives that if a man spills his seed and does not intend for a life to come from that seed, he has sinned. Holy cow! I'm guessing there aren't more than a handful of Catholic men, then, who should be calling themselves Catholic by those standards?

I think the biggest sin is for any one of us to determine whether any other one of us is living a God-approving life. Because, in my world, calling yourself ANY KIND OF CHRISTIAN means you belive that Christ is the only one who can make that call on our final day.

There must be an awful lot of Christians whose lives are so perfect and boring that they have nothing better to do than to judge another. I seriously doubt that God is smiling about that. Anyone heard the story about Mary Magdalene?

[RavenSong]

Originally Posted by joskids

I think the biggest sin is for any one of us to determine whether any other one of us is living a God-approving life. Because, in my world, calling yourself ANY KIND OF CHRISTIAN means you belive that Christ is the only one who can make that call on our final day.

Amen to that....

[binkybear]

Originally Posted by RavenSong

So, BinkyBear, are you the official bouncer or doorman for the Catholic Church? There are millions of Catholics who don't agree 100 percent with official church doctrine or policy.

The last time I checked, we weren't an exclusive club. Please don't presume to tell any of us that we have no business being Catholic. I have just as much right to attend Mass as you do.

Silly me... all these years, I thought that the focus of the Church was on our Lord, Jesus Christ. I wasn't aware that I'm not entitled to call myself Catholic unless I vote the way the Vatican wants me to vote. As everybody is always pointing out, our country is a democracy, not a theocracy.

Yes, you got me...I'm having business cards printed as we speak.
Like I said this is not my quote, these are not my words...talk to your priests, your bishops..."the cafeteria is closed" is not mine. I have not presumed a single thing and if you're angry..again talk to your parish. I merely typed it out, not mine. Take it up with the Church, they're tightening the reigns on the Amercianized cafeteria styled faith. Don't shoot the typer, talk to your parrish not me.