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10-10-2007, 07:17 AM
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EU Passports
Hello All -
Seeing Aurika's posting about getting her little one's passport (Congrats!!) made me start thinking....for our older adoptees is there a way to get an EU passport for them in place of their Polish passport? My son's Polish passport has expired I believe (he has been home about 6.5 years) and my daughter's is only 2 years old. Heather
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Heather Mom to A (bio), D (adopted from Poland in 2001), and Z (adopted from Poland in 2005) 
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#2
10-10-2007, 02:15 PM
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I suspect you just go about it the usual way... Contact your nearest Polish Consulate and get all the relevant forms. If your older one doesn't have a Pesel number, you may need to jump through some hoops to get one.
My Polish passport was done 3 months before the rules changed (two changes ago?!) so I don't have a Pesel number and my passport is green (but apparently they didn't have a record of my marriage, so even though I was at the time married for over 10 years, the Polish government considered me to be living in sin, so we had to get everything translated). When I explained this to the lady at the passport office in Warsaw, she told me I should probably give myself at least a year (or two!) before expiration to deal with the paperwork from the US. My son's was done later, so he has a Pesel and his passport is red. It will be expiring in about two years, so I should probably start on that within 6 months of expiration. My daughter has a Pesel and a red Polish EU passport good for 5 years. And then there's all the American passports. So unless the rules change again, we should be making new passports for SOMEONE in the household about once every 3-4 years pretty regularly :-) I just can't imagine how some of you with 4-6 adopted kids deal with all these passports!
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Decision to Adopt: 05/2006 Home Study Completed: 12/2006 Paperwork sent to Agency: 1/19/2007 I600A sent to USCIS: 1/19/2007 Referral: 2/18/2007 Fingerprinting: 3/13/2007 1st Visit (Pre-Bonding): 4/17/2007-4/23/2007 I-171H received: 05/05/2007 Court Date Received: 08/06/2007 Bonding: 08/20/2007 - 09/14/2007 Final (changed!) Court Date: 09/14/2007 New Birth Certificate Issued: 10/01/2007 Passport Obtained: 10/09/2007 Visa Obtained: 10/10/2007 Home in the US: 10/13/2007
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10-10-2007, 02:26 PM
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It may sound starnge, but why do you need valid Polish passports? I only use my American one.
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Decision to Adopt: 02/2006 Home Study Started: 03/03/2006 I600A sent to USCIS: 03/16/2006 Fingerprinting: 04/22/2006 Home Study Completed: 06/20/2006 Paperwork sent to Warsaw: 08/2006 I-171H received: 09/07/2006 Referral: 08/2007 I-171H update received: 10/30/07 Going to Poland: 11/19/2007 Pre-adoption court: 12/06/2007 Final adoption court: 12/27/2007 Got 3 weeks of waiting period Brought kids home: 01/26/2008
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10-10-2007, 02:31 PM
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*shrug*
I don't think it hurts to have both, especially since these new ones are EU. And besides, depending upon who the current US president is, it may or may not be more beneficial to show up in some countries as a Polish citizen rather than an American one :-)
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Decision to Adopt: 05/2006 Home Study Completed: 12/2006 Paperwork sent to Agency: 1/19/2007 I600A sent to USCIS: 1/19/2007 Referral: 2/18/2007 Fingerprinting: 3/13/2007 1st Visit (Pre-Bonding): 4/17/2007-4/23/2007 I-171H received: 05/05/2007 Court Date Received: 08/06/2007 Bonding: 08/20/2007 - 09/14/2007 Final (changed!) Court Date: 09/14/2007 New Birth Certificate Issued: 10/01/2007 Passport Obtained: 10/09/2007 Visa Obtained: 10/10/2007 Home in the US: 10/13/2007
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10-10-2007, 02:44 PM
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I see your point.
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Decision to Adopt: 02/2006 Home Study Started: 03/03/2006 I600A sent to USCIS: 03/16/2006 Fingerprinting: 04/22/2006 Home Study Completed: 06/20/2006 Paperwork sent to Warsaw: 08/2006 I-171H received: 09/07/2006 Referral: 08/2007 I-171H update received: 10/30/07 Going to Poland: 11/19/2007 Pre-adoption court: 12/06/2007 Final adoption court: 12/27/2007 Got 3 weeks of waiting period Brought kids home: 01/26/2008
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10-10-2007, 02:56 PM
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Aurika, I am always proud to be American. We can be living proofs of America's greatness ;-).
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10-17-2007, 05:37 AM
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Taia -
We were always told that with dual citizenship, Poland requires that you enter Poland on a Polish passport. How they would know if our kids are dual citizens or not at processing in the airport, I don't know.... Heather
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Heather Mom to A (bio), D (adopted from Poland in 2001), and Z (adopted from Poland in 2005)
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10-17-2007, 05:39 AM
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Aurika -
I was thinking the same thing. It won't hurt to have both passports. Plus, I think for the future, the EU passport would be very nice to have for ease of travel throughout Europe. Even though I don't qualify, my kids will so I'd like to give them every advantage possible. Heather
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Heather Mom to A (bio), D (adopted from Poland in 2001), and Z (adopted from Poland in 2005)
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10-17-2007, 07:24 AM
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The reason we were considering going to just American passports is because the Polish army is compulsory...we don't want our kiddos to have to go back and serve in the Polish army. This is what our contact told us...
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10-17-2007, 09:17 AM
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"In the autumn of 2006, the Polish parliament decided to phase out the draft by 2010 and make the Polish army an all-volunteer army"
Source: Military service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Disclaimer: Take everything you read on Wikipedia with a grain of salt. Quote:
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10-17-2007, 09:51 AM
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No, PolishMom, if you enter Poland on your Polish passport, you have to show your American one as well to prove that you can go back. It only makes sense to enter on your Polish passport when you plan to stay there for a few months or longer, so you don't have to pay whatever fee they have for foreigners overstaying a typical vacation time. Perhaps someone else knows what that fee is called. I never use my Polish passport because I can enter any European country I want on the American passport. I have nothing against Polish passports. It's just that it's a hassle and additional costs for something I don't use. From what I understand, I can get a renewal anytime, if I want it, in the future.
I don't think men living permanently abroad would be normally called to the army, but I don't know what would happen in case of war. In any case, by accepting the American citizenship, you pledge allegiance to the American government. So here it's clear where your place in the army is. I don't think you should worry about the army. My only point is that you won't use the passports much.
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Decision to Adopt: 02/2006 Home Study Started: 03/03/2006 I600A sent to USCIS: 03/16/2006 Fingerprinting: 04/22/2006 Home Study Completed: 06/20/2006 Paperwork sent to Warsaw: 08/2006 I-171H received: 09/07/2006 Referral: 08/2007 I-171H update received: 10/30/07 Going to Poland: 11/19/2007 Pre-adoption court: 12/06/2007 Final adoption court: 12/27/2007 Got 3 weeks of waiting period Brought kids home: 01/26/2008
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