[Leslie]

Hi all, has anyone heard anything about Mongolia? Has anyone heard of Adoption Ark? opening up in Mongolia? I was e-mailed about Mongolia being an option for Kazakhstan or China people.
Thanks for any feedback.

[sak9645]

... agencies in the U.S., has a Mongolia program. Holt basically started intercountry adoption about 50 years ago, when Harry and Bertha Holt had to get an act of Congress to bring home eight Korean children.

Holt is a very conservative agency, and won't mislead you if the program is risky. I would definitely talk with people there before committing.

Sharon

[maremal]

Leslie,
We have adopted from Mongolia. We worked with Holt International Children's servoices, home based in Oregon, bu has branches in many states. They have their own website. We adopted 2 children from Korean and then "we were too old", so we adopted our 3rd from Mongolia. I traveled to Mongolia in May, 2002. She was 3 and 1/2 and now just turned five. Holt is very reputable; they started the international adoptions from Korea 50 years ago and were the first to place children in the US from Mongolia. If you would like any more info, respond to me.
Marianne

[AnaM-H]

I spoke to Adoption Ark today about Mongolian. Small world!! We have an appt to start home study with Fla agency who do adoptions in Guatamela. They can do the home study for Adoption Ark should we decide to go with a Mongolian adoption.

How did you feel about Adoption Ark? Mongolian? PM me or post here.

Ana

[intladoptionblog]

Here's the link for the State Department's info on adoption from Mongolia:
Intercountry Adoption Mongolia
It sounds like it's not possible for Americans right now, though.

[mscottyims]

I see the State Department's info about not adopting from Mongolia. If that's the case, why did Adoption Ark suggest to me today to adopt from there? Is it possible to adopt a Mongolian child?

I'm brand spanking new at this an trying to make sure I have a smooth adoption process.


Many thanks,
M.

[sak9645]

Be very cautious when choosing an agency for Mongolian adoption.

Ask agencies to tell you how many Mongolian adoptions they have done. More is always better, because experience in the country makes an agency better at negotiating the process.

Ask agencies to give you contact information for families who have done Mongolian adoptions through them recently. Talk to these families about their process. Find out the time frame, the total costs, how smoothly the process went, whether the children were as represented by the agency, etc.

Then go beyond the people mentioned by the agencies and seek out other families on-line and in your local adoption support groups. Remember that the people mentioned by the agencies are likely to be their most satisfied clients, and you want to hear both the good and the bad.

Contact the U.S. Embassy in Mongolia to see whether families using the agencies you are considering have had trouble getting visas for their children because the children do not qualify for international adoption.

Unfortunately, many children in Mongolian orphanages do not qualify for adoption visas under U.S. law. If you are referred and complete an adoption of a non-qualifying child, because an agency isn't experienced or honest, you will not be able to bring him/her to the U.S. unless you live abroad with him/her for two years and then apply for a regular visa for the child. You will be legally and financially responsible for the child, unless you overturn the adoption or live overseas with him/her.

Also ask the U.S. Embassy there whether there is anything else you should know about the agencies and their in-country personnel. Unfortunately, some agencies use in-country people who are not reputable, and those in-country people solicit bribes or engage in other questionable behavior.

Learn as much as you can about the agencies. Call the licensing authorities in the states where the agencies are licensed and see if they maintain a complaint registry. Find out what types of complaints have been leveled against them and how they have been resolved. Even the best agencies may have a complaint or two, because they may not have been a good fit for particular families; look for a PATTERN of complaints, suggesting that the agency habitually has certain problems.

Do the same thing with the Better Business Bureaus in the states where the agencies are licensed. You can actually do this on-line.

Check to see if the agencies are members of the Joint Council on International Children's Services, the leading advocacy organization for international adoption. JCICS works hard to promote the highest standards of ethical international adoption practice and to provide ongoing education for international adoption professionals. JCICS requires member agencies to sign a copy of its Standards of Practice, indicating their intent to comply with the standards.

Check to see if JCICS member agencies have been active in the organization -- for example, serving on the Board of Directors of JCICS or speaking at one of its conferences. This is a sign that the agencies are respected by their peers.

While JCICS is the primary adoption advocacy organization for international adoption, it is also desirable if an agency is a member of the National Council for Adoption, the Child Welfare League of America, the North American Council on Adoptable Children, etc., and takes a leadership role in these organizations.

Check to see if an agency is accredited by the Council on Accreditation in New York. While accreditation is voluntary, and while some good agencies have not yet pursued it because they are planning to seek accreditation specifically for use when the U.S. ratifies the Hague Convention on intercountry adoption next year, it is a real plus if an agency is accredited.

Become an "expert" on Mongolian adoption by doing a lot of reading and investigation on your own. That way, you can read an agency's literature or talk to its staff and determine whether it is presenting accurate information or feeding you a line of baloney.

I hope this helps.

Sharon

[hml1976]

Yes, everything that Sharon said

We looked into adopting from Mongolia for our second adoption instead of returning to Kaz. We didn't meet the five year marriage requirement and I had a hard time finding anyone outside of Holt that had actually completed an adoption which made me believe it was quite difficult. Make sure that you talk to families who have their child home.

Best of luck and please come back and let us know how it goes, our family would like to adopt a toddler in a few years when our kids are in school and Mongolia is definitely a draw for us. Thanks!