[mommytoEli]

i used to have this awesome chart from a speech therapist that denoted appropriate errors by age....so for example, you could look at the chart and note it was perfectly acceptable for a 3 year old to not be able to pronounce or to mispronounce "R." does anyone know where i can find a chart like that.

also, eli is 3....he substitutes lots of letters that i remember being age appropriate- like he says "f" sounds for "th." but he completely substitutes m's for n's.... like he "meeds" some water. age appropriate, right?

i want to know before his school meeting next week. thanks in advance ):

[AdoptAmiga]

I have the chart "Articulation Profile: Sound Production by Developmental Ages". I'm techno illiterate, so I don't know how to scan it for you to see. I can make a copy and snail mail it to you .

According to the chart. a 3yr old should have these sounds: m, h, w, n, p, b. By age 4 these additional sounds: d, t, g, k, y. My chart has listed age increments of .3. For example, if Eli is 3.3 years, he should have "these" particular set of sounds. the chart goes up to age 8, with the last set of sounds to master is "r, s, z, zh, v".

Hope this helps a bit.

[shelbyintx]

I'm a speech therapist. Here's a link to some helpful information. I tried to attach a basic sound development chart but couldn't do it. If you send me your e-mail, I can e-mail it to you.

Typical Speech and Language Development

[mommytoEli]

so if he can make the n sound in isolation...like he sees an n and says "nnnn," but can't use it in words, even when modeled, is it still age appropriate because he just turned 3?

[shelbyintx]

I personally wouldn't put a three year old in speech for this. In the school system, a three year old's speech has to be severly impaired for them to qualify for services. A general rule of thumb is if they are communicating in short sentences that can be understood about 80% of the time, then they are developing normally. I would watch it until Fall and if it doesn't clear up on its own, address it then.

[bhouston]

I actually wish we would have started speech earlier for Brooklyn She started a bit after 3 and was in it for almost 3 yrs...She was tested at 2 but the comment was she is just so darn cute and look she can build blocks...she will be fine...she would and still does leave the front of words off...and still calls milk....nilk...She has more of an articulation issue....Of the 4 or 5 speech therapists we had ....we actually only had ONE that was excellent and saw the issues and we made progress....she of course moved and every speech therapist after that wanted to just tidy up the rough edges and move on.... I was not impressed with our speech therapy services...and we have great insurance that covers alot of speech therapy...we did the public school setting as well when she was 3...but didnt stay long.....I just believe that moms know in their gut if there is an issue or not....We are going to start doing some neurological developement reorganization because after lots of research I believe that there is work that needs to be done in connecting that part of the brain for speech with some exercises....it just shorts circuits I believe....If you do not see your childs speech improving alot over time....I would definetly find a excellent speech therapist.....

[mommytoEli]

Originally Posted by shelbyintx

I personally wouldn't put a three year old in speech for this. In the school system, a three year old's speech has to be severly impaired for them to qualify for services. A general rule of thumb is if they are communicating in short sentences that can be understood about 80% of the time, then they are developing normally. I would watch it until Fall and if it doesn't clear up on its own, address it then.

i wouldn't either, but eli is being evaluated for something else, and they asked about his speech...so i just wanted to be on top of it. i'm NOT worried about his speech at all actually, just curious about the age appropriateness.

[shelbyintx]

That came across wrong. What I meant was that I wouldn't qualify him for speech based on substituting /m/ for /n/, but you might run across a speech therapist who would. I think we have a little more leeway in our discipline than others on who qualifies and who doesn't, and sometimes its just a judgment call. It is an unusal substitution, though. I don't think I've run across a kiddo who used it, and I've been doing this for 13 years. I hope you find the help you need for Eli.