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Old 12-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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Law approved in Guatemala

The Congress just finalized the voting and the law was passed with the majority of the votes from the Congress.
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girl bname:Anayeli Marlen T.M. dob:12/15/2000
boy bname: Luis Fernando T.M. dob 8/10/2004
bmother name: Marlen A. T.M.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:33 AM
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Hi Mildred,

Were you able to watch it? Did you hear anything on the grandfather clause?

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Old 12-11-2007, 12:00 PM
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Everything was read so fast that I couldn't hear anything about the grandfather clause. They recessed, I just heard the last 15 minutes.
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Mildred mama de maría josé & john paul
looking for two more bio siblings adopted
girl bname:Anayeli Marlen T.M. dob:12/15/2000
boy bname: Luis Fernando T.M. dob 8/10/2004
bmother name: Marlen A. T.M.
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8/12/05-IT'S A GIRL! born 8/7/05
1/27/06-AT HOME!!!!BioMother is pregnant! Saga continues....
8/7/06 - IT'S A BOY, John Paul.
2/27/07 AT HOME FOREVER!!!!
With GOD EVERYTHING is possible. Just believe!
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:06 PM
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There is an article on Yahoo, world news, about it, it sounds good to me?
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Decided on Guatemala 4-20-06
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It's a girl born 2-27-07
referral 3-07-2007
POA to Guat. 3-16-07
Family Court 4-09-07?
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DNA Done 4-27-07
SWI interview 5-10-07
DNA Results-It's a Match 5-11-07
Out of FC 6-8-07
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KO 9-5-07
Maybe another KO in there somewhere?
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:06 PM
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Yahoo article

Yahoo just posted an article that stated all adoptions currently in progress would be allowed to continue under the existing rules.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:10 PM
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I hope this AP article is correct and based on what was passed today!!!
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2 Bio twin boys born 7/01
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5/21/07 Officially waiting for referral!!
8/14/07 Ava born!!
9/18/07 Received referral of Ava Grace!!
10/11/07 Rec'd DNA Auth!
10/24/07 Entered Family Court
10/29/07 DNA taken/SW Interview
11/5/07 DNA Results rec'd @ USE
11/8/07 Family Court Exit!
11/21-11/25 First visit trip!!
12/22/07 PA!! PA!! PA!!
12/27/07 Entered PGN w/out PA
1/2/08 PA picked up from USE
Waiting for KO: 1/8 Rev#1, 1/16 Rev#2, 1/21 Waiting to be signed
1/22/08 KO for no PA
2/11/08 Resubmitted to PGN!
2/14-2/18 Second visit trip!!
3/3/08 OUT!!!
3/5/08 Final Decree signed
3/10/08 Retalhuleu BC
3/14/08 ORANGE
3/25/08 2nd DNA test/Final Medical
4/1/08 DNA to USE
4/7/08 ePink
4/14/08 Embassy Day
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:14 PM
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Have they defined what "in process" is???? That's my big issue---who is covered in the grandfathering??? Anyone out there? I'll keep searching also,
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#2 older child, ref 10/05
12/05-told there's 'trouble' with bmom-don't even send gifts
5/06-recd call that bmom wants to reclaim;case goes back to court
agency WITHDREW US W/OUT OUR PERMISSION They say adoption will "never happen"
3/07-recd call that he is finally avail (again); courts ruled against bmom; but another family is paper-ready & waiting...
We let you down, son of my heart

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11/12/07-rec COA
12/21/07-completed dossier rec'd by atty
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1/23/08-told our case was in "grave jeopardy"
2/12/08-rec PA
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8/13/08-agency says 'not likely' b/c we didn't VISIT!
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:15 PM
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Law Passed - email from my agency.

The Guatemalan Congress just passed law 3735 pretty much as it was drafted. The effective date of the law will be December 31, 2007. All cases will need to be registered with the Central Authority by January 30th in order to continue under the laws in effect at the time they were started. The Central Authority will be an autonomous organization called the Consejo Nacional de Adopciones (CNA). The CNA will have a directive body made up of 1 representative each from the Foreign Affairs Ministry, Supreme Court, and Social Welfare (Bienestar Social). Each organization must name its representative within 2 weeks of the effective date and write regulations with 60 days of the effective date. The law does not define specifically what an “in process” case means.

JCICS will be analyzing the new law and will provide additional information as it becomes available.

As we have just received this information this is all we know now. There will be more specific information released as the days go by. Some time next week we will have another conference call to discuss what we know. The JCICS website is JCICS2 and you may want to access it frequently over the next several weeks to keep up to date on the latest information available.
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01/07 - Signed with Agency
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07/20/07 - Received I-171H
7/24/07 - Received referral of DS
7/31/07 - Authenticated POA sent to agency
8/15/07 - DNA Authorized
10/01/07 - PA received
10/11/07 - Social Worker Interview Scheduled
10/12/07 - Preparing Dossier for la nina de Mexico.
10/17/07 - Entered FC
11/28/07 - Entered PGN
12/20/07 - On 2nd Reviewers Desk!!!
01/23/08 - WE ARE APPROVED!!!! OUT!!
01/28/08 - Final birthmom signoff!!
02/04/08 -GCBC
02/05/08 - ORANGE!!!!!
02/19/08 - 2nd DNA in Gua
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:21 PM
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If the AP article is true, then this appears to be very good news; for us in process and ultimately for the future children in Guatemala. We still want to see Congress confirmation on what is considered 'in process' but if it is what everyone (stakeholders) have been saying all along ie having POA registered, then those with referrals should be breathing a little easier right now. Half holding my breath to see what 'in-process' means..........
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:23 PM
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Thanks for the info!

How can they not have "in process" defined in the law!!!!!! That is maddening!!!!! They better not tell me now, after all this, that its going to take a few MORE weeks to figure out what in process means. GRRRRR....
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5/21/07 Officially waiting for referral!!
8/14/07 Ava born!!
9/18/07 Received referral of Ava Grace!!
10/11/07 Rec'd DNA Auth!
10/24/07 Entered Family Court
10/29/07 DNA taken/SW Interview
11/5/07 DNA Results rec'd @ USE
11/8/07 Family Court Exit!
11/21-11/25 First visit trip!!
12/22/07 PA!! PA!! PA!!
12/27/07 Entered PGN w/out PA
1/2/08 PA picked up from USE
Waiting for KO: 1/8 Rev#1, 1/16 Rev#2, 1/21 Waiting to be signed
1/22/08 KO for no PA
2/11/08 Resubmitted to PGN!
2/14-2/18 Second visit trip!!
3/3/08 OUT!!!
3/5/08 Final Decree signed
3/10/08 Retalhuleu BC
3/14/08 ORANGE
3/25/08 2nd DNA test/Final Medical
4/1/08 DNA to USE
4/7/08 ePink
4/14/08 Embassy Day
4/17/08 Home Forever!!!
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:25 PM
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and the Central authority is not even created yet. This is insane.
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01/07 - Signed with Agency
02/07- Paperwork
04/07 - Homestudy
07/20/07 - Received I-171H
7/24/07 - Received referral of DS
7/31/07 - Authenticated POA sent to agency
8/15/07 - DNA Authorized
10/01/07 - PA received
10/11/07 - Social Worker Interview Scheduled
10/12/07 - Preparing Dossier for la nina de Mexico.
10/17/07 - Entered FC
11/28/07 - Entered PGN
12/20/07 - On 2nd Reviewers Desk!!!
01/23/08 - WE ARE APPROVED!!!! OUT!!
01/28/08 - Final birthmom signoff!!
02/04/08 -GCBC
02/05/08 - ORANGE!!!!!
02/19/08 - 2nd DNA in Gua
02/22/08 - PINK!!!
03/12/08 - Home FOREVER
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:34 PM
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I have merged all threads discussing the new law into one thread in effort to keep all discussion in one place.
Please keep all discussion on this thread.

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Old 12-11-2007, 12:42 PM
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OK. So, what does this mean if Owen's b/mom gives birth before 31 Jan 2008, we could accept it? I really don't understand how far the grandfathering goes, as everyone else has pointed out.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:51 PM
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So if our POA gets to Guatemala by Jan 30, 2008 we would fall under the current adoption process?
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11/26/07 bio sibling of Guatemala daughter born
12/7/07 Accepting Referral - crazy ride ahead
12/07 -POA registered
1/29/08 I-171H issued
2/13/08 - learned registered with CA
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03/15/08 told we were missing 10 documents from dossier - ugghh
03/17/2008 DNA 99.98%
03/17/08 -missing docs found..
4/4/08 - PA (wait of 18 days)
4/30/08 Out of FC and into PGN
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7/9/2008 OUT!
8/1/08 GCBC (we were never informed of this)
8/4/08 Passport ( never informed)
8/7/08 2nd DNA Taken (never informed)
8/18/08 Email for pink appt.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:53 PM
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if it is what everyone (stakeholders) have been saying all along ie having POA registered, then those with referrals should be breathing a little easier right now. Half holding my breath to see what 'in-process' means..........

Don't forget the JCICS concern was that some of the stakeholders were saying "in process" meant IN PGN, so that's certainly still a very important point to clarify! I can't imagine our case getting into PGN by 12/31 (not sure we're even in FC yet), so we'll keep praying and hoping.
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April-July, 2007 Research, paperchase, I600A, waiting for our big move.
8/6 Moved across country; finally we can start!
Aug & Sep Lots of fingerprints, homestudy
9/28 Referral: DOB 3/3/07, POA
10/16 Our baby boy dies. RIP sweet Matias. In our hearts forever.
10/18 Referral: DOB 01/27/07, POA
10/26 171H
11/20 DNA Auth
12/3 In PGN w/o PA, DNA to USE (99.85%);
1/18/08 KO for no PA (46 days)
1/19 PA! (47 days)
2/1 - 2/4 Visit trip
2/14 Back in PGN
3/11 KO'd; "missing" document, Police letter issues, baby's BC illegible.
4/11 Back in PGN