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Question about DNA authorization
I've been hearing of people getting DNA authorization rejected because the picture of the baby with the birth mother wasn't good enough. So do all babies have their pictures taken with their birth mother before DNA? Ours did, but I didn't know that was the norm. I have heard of so many people not getting pictures of their birth mother with the baby before DNA.
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Kelly The Cash Crew 2006 7/5 Decided on Guat Adoption 8/5 HS home visit 8/11 Homestudy complete (6 days) 8/24 FINALLY chose agency 9/1 Fingerprinted 9/22 Received 171H (in 3 weeks) 10/02 Referral -BABY GIRL born 9/19/06 10/25 Dossier & POA in Guatemala 11/29 DNA Authorization 11/30 DNA taken & Social Worker Interview 12/12 DNA MATCH - 99.81% WOOHOO 12/22 OUT of FC 12/27-12/30 AMAZING Visit Trip 2007 1/19 FINALLY PA 1/25 Entered PGN 3/9 OUT OF PGN 3/13 At Villa Nueva Civil Registry awaiting BC 3/23 Passport 3/29 Submitted for PINK 4/10 PINK 4/28 In our arms forever 4/30 Embassy Appointment 5/4 Home Forever at 7.5mo old 2008 8/6 Fell for a beautiful 5yr old boy 11/2 Homestudy update finally done 11/21 Dossier arrives at agency & official REFERRAL 2009 1/15 Received Court Date 3/23 COURT DATE 3/25 passed court 4/20 In our arms forever 4/22 Embassy Appointment 4/25 Home Forever
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Hi Kelly. I believe it is a rule that at least one picture of both the child and the birthmom together must be taken for DNA purposes. In our case, 2 pictures were taken (nearly identical) but I only received the original Polaroid of 1 of them; the other was a photocopy. I assume the other original went into an embassy or LabCorp file. As for people not receiving the photos, I do not believe it is because the photo was never taken, I think it is probably an oversight or that the photo went to another interested party instead of them. HTH.
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Kathy Mom to bio son born 2/04 02/25/06 Started Adoption Process 04/29/06 I-171H Approval 06/09/06 Maria Born 06/14/06 Referral 07/07/06 Entered Family Court 07/11/06 DNA Authorized 07/18/06 DNA and SW Interview 07/28/06 It's a Match!! 08/08/06 Pre-Approval 08/21/06 Entered PGN 09/26/06 OUT!! 10/13/06 BC Issued 10/23/06 Embassy Appointment 10/25/06 Home forever! ![]()
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Is it DNA authorization rejected or DNA pre-approval rejected? I wasn't aware that a picture was taken before the birthmom came in for the actual DNA procedure.. I know they take a picture then..
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Perhaps I am a little confused as well - I thought that in order to get DNA authorization, the attorneys had to present a file including your forms (171H; G28; notarized e-mail form; etc), a copy of baby's birth certificate and a picture of the bmom (alone in most cases) and possibly other docs at the US Embasssy. It is this picture of Bmom that has been rejected for not being professional enough. Then at the DNA test, they take a polaroid picture of bmom holding baby.
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Sheri May 24, 2006 - IT'S A BOY (DOB)!!! June 8, 2006 - Referral Nov 21, 2006 - Into PGN w/ PA Jan 18, 2007 - OUT!!!!! Feb 10, 2007 - Together Forever ![]() Feb 12, 2007 - Embassy Appointment Feb 15, 2007 - Home!!!!!
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Well I thought it was as DNA authorization when the facilitator goes to the US Embassy to request authorization, right? Isn't this one of the things that is getting denied lately? The photo of the birth mom (or birth mom and baby) not being clear enough, against the right color background, etc? What is the DNA pre-approval Marcy? I didn't know about that one.
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Kelly The Cash Crew 2006 7/5 Decided on Guat Adoption 8/5 HS home visit 8/11 Homestudy complete (6 days) 8/24 FINALLY chose agency 9/1 Fingerprinted 9/22 Received 171H (in 3 weeks) 10/02 Referral -BABY GIRL born 9/19/06 10/25 Dossier & POA in Guatemala 11/29 DNA Authorization 11/30 DNA taken & Social Worker Interview 12/12 DNA MATCH - 99.81% WOOHOO 12/22 OUT of FC 12/27-12/30 AMAZING Visit Trip 2007 1/19 FINALLY PA 1/25 Entered PGN 3/9 OUT OF PGN 3/13 At Villa Nueva Civil Registry awaiting BC 3/23 Passport 3/29 Submitted for PINK 4/10 PINK 4/28 In our arms forever 4/30 Embassy Appointment 5/4 Home Forever at 7.5mo old 2008 8/6 Fell for a beautiful 5yr old boy 11/2 Homestudy update finally done 11/21 Dossier arrives at agency & official REFERRAL 2009 1/15 Received Court Date 3/23 COURT DATE 3/25 passed court 4/20 In our arms forever 4/22 Embassy Appointment 4/25 Home Forever
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Kelly:
I think Marcy was just referring to Pre-Approval, which is obviously dependent on DNA test results being submitted by the Lab to the US Embassy. So, Marcy was asking if the denials for unsatisfactory pictures were in connection with DNA authorization (when, as far as I know, the picture required to be submitted is of bmom alone) or for PA (when the required picture has bmom holding baby). You are correct that people have been denied DNA authorization because the bmom photo did not meet recently enacted new Embassy standards. I have not heard anyone being denied DNA authorization for bmom-baby photo issues (and I do not think such a photo is required at that stage). I have also not heard anyone being denied PA for DNA test photo of bmom and baby not meeting standards.
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Sheri May 24, 2006 - IT'S A BOY (DOB)!!! June 8, 2006 - Referral Nov 21, 2006 - Into PGN w/ PA Jan 18, 2007 - OUT!!!!! Feb 10, 2007 - Together Forever ![]() Feb 12, 2007 - Embassy Appointment Feb 15, 2007 - Home!!!!!
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It's a solo picture of the birthmom that has been rejected when the attorney's are trying to get DNA authorization from the US embassy. There is no photo of birthmom with child before DNA authorization that I know of.
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~Piper www.ourgraceandjoy.com 5/6/06 Signed with our agency 6/10/06 Homestudy 7/5/06 Received Referral Baby Girl 9 days old! Born 6/26/06 ![]() 7/11/06 I-171H Approval (Houston) 9/4/06 Social Worker Interview with Birthmother 10/18/06 DNA Authorization - About time 10/25/06 DNA Test 10/31/06 DNA Match! ![]() 11/30-12/4 Fabulous Visit ![]() 12/1/06 Received PA 12/12/06 In PGN 2/7/07 Out of PGN 4/2/07 PINK APPOINTMENT 4/4/07 HOME AT LAST!!!!
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Ok now I get it a bit better.
Thanks!! We got pictures of our birth mother with our baby at referral, so that's what confused me.
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Kelly The Cash Crew 2006 7/5 Decided on Guat Adoption 8/5 HS home visit 8/11 Homestudy complete (6 days) 8/24 FINALLY chose agency 9/1 Fingerprinted 9/22 Received 171H (in 3 weeks) 10/02 Referral -BABY GIRL born 9/19/06 10/25 Dossier & POA in Guatemala 11/29 DNA Authorization 11/30 DNA taken & Social Worker Interview 12/12 DNA MATCH - 99.81% WOOHOO 12/22 OUT of FC 12/27-12/30 AMAZING Visit Trip 2007 1/19 FINALLY PA 1/25 Entered PGN 3/9 OUT OF PGN 3/13 At Villa Nueva Civil Registry awaiting BC 3/23 Passport 3/29 Submitted for PINK 4/10 PINK 4/28 In our arms forever 4/30 Embassy Appointment 5/4 Home Forever at 7.5mo old 2008 8/6 Fell for a beautiful 5yr old boy 11/2 Homestudy update finally done 11/21 Dossier arrives at agency & official REFERRAL 2009 1/15 Received Court Date 3/23 COURT DATE 3/25 passed court 4/20 In our arms forever 4/22 Embassy Appointment 4/25 Home Forever
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Well, see there, I didn't even know there WAS a picture of the birthmom for DNA authorization... Learn something new all the time..
Sherie ~ Thanks for explaining what I meant.. You did it perfectly and much better than I could! :-)
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