[belleinblue1978]

Originally Posted by nurse_reedle

6.) To prevent cervical cancer. Yeah that is usually caused by HPV and that can be transmitted either way. Besides, cervical cancer is also quite easily treated in most (yes, please note I said most) cases. It is more likely, by far, to appear in a promiscous girl, regardless of the cut of the p3nises she is with.

Anyway, those are the main reasons.

Or a non promiscuous woman who gets it from a promiscuous man.

From the CDC

HPV infection. Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, and another 6.2 million people become newly infected each year. At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.

STD Facts - Human papillomavirus (HPV)

HPV can happen to anyone. Even someone that has only one sexual partner..... Unless that person is tested for it or you completely trust that they are a virgin, you could be exposed if they have even been with one other person.

To say that women who get cervical cancer are more likely to be promiscuous is judgemental and offensive.

[paigeturner]

Originally Posted by belleinblue1978

Or a non promiscuous woman who gets it from a promiscuous man.

From the CDC

HPV infection. Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, and another 6.2 million people become newly infected each year. At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.

STD Facts - Human papillomavirus (HPV)

HPV can happen to anyone. Even someone that has only one sexual partner..... Unless that person is tested for it or you completely trust that they are a virgin, you could be exposed if they have even been with one other person.

To say that women who get cervical cancer are more likely to be promiscuous is judgemental and offensive.

Thanks for posting this Belle. My 23 year old daughter has recently gone through cervical cancer. I am highly offended on her behalf by a stranger calling her a "promiscuous girl". She's had two partners. And she'd be the first to argue that the treatment wasn't "easy". I didn't think to ask her about the "cut" of her boyfriend. Unbelievable. Why is it that as women we are so judgmental of other women?

[nurse_reedle]

Originally Posted by belleinblue1978

Or a non promiscuous woman who gets it from a promiscuous man.

From the CDC

HPV infection. Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, and another 6.2 million people become newly infected each year. At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.

STD Facts - Human papillomavirus (HPV)

HPV can happen to anyone. Even someone that has only one sexual partner..... Unless that person is tested for it or you completely trust that they are a virgin, you could be exposed if they have even been with one other person.

To say that women who get cervical cancer are more likely to be promiscuous is judgemental and offensive.

Oh no! I am SOOOO sorry i didn't word that better!!! You are SOOOO right. I was *not* intending to be judgemental. I truthfully just really misspoke about it. I am so sorry. I wasn't trying to say that was the only way. It does sound like that is what I meant and I am truly sorry!

[nurse_reedle]

Originally Posted by paigeturner

Thanks for posting this Belle. My 23 year old daughter has recently gone through cervical cancer. I am highly offended on her behalf by a stranger calling her a "promiscuous girl". She's had two partners. And she'd be the first to argue that the treatment wasn't "easy". I didn't think to ask her about the "cut" of her boyfriend. Unbelievable. Why is it that as women we are so judgmental of other women?

Ok, I am seriously in tears here because that is not what I meant *at all* even though that is precisely how it sounded! I am soooo, sooo, sooo sorry. I completely agree that a woman can get it from her first time with someone that has it...I meant regardless of cut. I wasn't trying to make a point that girls who get it are promiscous...even though that is how it sounded. Please accept my SINCERE apology!

[belleinblue1978]

Originally Posted by nurse_reedle

Oh no! I am SOOOO sorry i didn't word that better!!! You are SOOOO right. I was *not* intending to be judgemental. I truthfully just really misspoke about it. I am so sorry. I wasn't trying to say that was the only way. It does sound like that is what I meant and I am truly sorry!

Thank you. Losing most of my cervix to stage three pre cancerous cells is one of the most upsetting and scary things that has happened to me. I contracted it from my first partner who told me he was a virgin.

[nurse_reedle]

Originally Posted by belleinblue1978

Thank you. Losing most of my cervix to stage three pre cancerous cells is one of the most upsetting and scary things that has happened to me. I contracted it from my first partner who told me he was a virgin.

I recently went through a scare with abnormal cells. It was very scary. I am so sorry you had to go through that. And I am sorry, again, that I was unintentionally hurtful!

[manni28]

I was reading your post and I want to ask you two questions?

1) Why not the "cut"? Many women (at least here in the states) don't like dating a man who isn't cut. Usually, not all the time, if a man isn't cut, and doesn't clean himself properly, his partner can get an infection.

2) When your child is in high school, and in the school shower, do you think he would feel “different" from the others because he isn't circumcised?

I’m asking you these questions because I’m a parent of two boys and I thought about these questions when deciding about circumcision.

Before I was married I wouldn’t be date and be intimate with a man who wasn’t circumcised; I had one experience with an old boyfriend and that was it for me! I want my sons to have a healthy dating life and I know many women wouldn’t date a man who isn’t “cut”.



-Manni

[vegaschristina]

When I was dating, I would never have thought to ask a man....wait, before we go out...are you "cut?"

My fson is not circ'd, and once we finalize his adoption (God willing in 2009), then we will keep him uncirc'd unless there is a medical reason to have it done.

To my mind, having an amputation simply so he'll look like his friends in the high school locker room isn't reason enough.

[Larue]

GOD!!!!! I just love adoptive parents. I have never seen a group of people more willing to condemn each other. For what this time…not circumcising our sons. Are you kidding me?! For the record, my drop dead gorgeous German husband is, like many European males, not circumcised. We have been together for over 10 years. I don’t get “infections”. He is my lover, my rock, my shelter during a storm, and the adoring father of the daughter of my heart.

Nurse_Reedle…Guatemala forum pal, I think you should continue to ask your questions. If this forum wants to condemn you, it’s their loss. Circumcision is such a personal choice. I wish you all the best with your future adoption!!!

[bromanchik]

OK Cleanliness for me is a deal breaker. Circumcision has nothing to do with good hygienic habits. Either they're a slob or they ain't.

My husband is also a German. If the Germans know anything they know about cleanliness.

And may I be the first to say that foreskins are fun?

[Fran27]

Originally Posted by bromanchik

And may I be the first to say that foreskins are fun?

Lol!

ust because a man isn't circumsized doesn't mean he doesn't know how to clean himself. Sure, it might be less easy, but it's not more difficult that washing our parts down there, IMO. About the shower thing, more and more children are not getting circ'ed. So he definitely won't be alone.

But honestly, I really hope people don't have their sons circumcised because he might not get a date or because they're worried about what he will think in the showers as a teen. Personally, I also think that it's unnecessary, probably gives less pleasure to the man, and I think the theory of removing a piece of skin because it might get infected is just odd. My finger could get infected, too... Plus a circ was done while I was with the babies at the hospital and the baby screamed... Not something I'd like my son to go through 'just in case'.

[lovemy2boys]

Originally Posted by bromanchik

And may I be the first to say that foreskins are fun?

Brenda - maybe you should put this on a bumper sticker - lol...

And Larue, I almost flipped out when I was slowly scrolling down and saw a man's face on the circumcision thread...I wasn't sure what I would be seeing!!!

Your family is beautiful, by the way...

[manni28]

But honestly, I really hope people don't have their sons circumcised because he might not get a date or because they're worried about what he will think in the showers as a teen.

I do and as a parent I take everything into concern in regards to his future. For example, I wouldn’t give my children first names that might hinder them from getting a job or may cause them embarrassment when they’re older.

Personally, I also think that it's unnecessary, probably gives less pleasure to the man, and I think the theory of removing a piece of skin because it might get infected is just odd. My finger could get infected, too... Plus a circ was done while I was with the babies at the hospital and the baby screamed... Not something I'd like my son to go through 'just in case'.

Again, it’s a personal choice and opinion.

[devildogwife]

Originally Posted by Larue

Nurse_Reedle…Guatemala forum pal, I think you should continue to ask your questions. If this forum wants to condemn you, it’s their loss.

Condemn her? That a little much. Many of us have tried to be helpful and informative. Just because people have differing views doesn't mean they are condemning each other. FWIW, I'm totally with you on not circing Nurse_Reedle.

Manni-you cetainly don't speak for many women in the states. I never had a problem dating a man who wasn't circed, and neither did my friends.

[gigigeorge]

MY sister had her son circ'd and when I asked why (merely out of curiosity as she has the right to dp what she thinks is best for her kids) she said "Because it looks weird'... so when her son is older she is going to tell him that thereby informing him that anything that looks 'weird' should be immediately removed and discarded.

As for the high school showers, because someone always has to bring it up, depending on where you are in the US there is almost a 50% cut to uncut ratio PLUS I teach my son to be proud of who he is and that includes being proud of the body he was born with.

gina.