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Old 10-18-2008, 05:43 PM
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Robin thanks. Sounds hard but I'm going to try. He tends to do well when I work with him. Thanks for the advice. I do think it's important. Do you think it's a mistake to give him soft toys he's allowed to throw while doing this? Would it only confuse him?


Yes, it will confuse him. If you want no throwing in the house, then no throwing in the house. I don't think a young child can differentiate between toys--which ones are OK to throw and which ones not to throw. The nerf toys can also knock over something fragile and it can fall and break--they can knock a picture off the wall.

Teach him that throwing is an outdoor activity. And keep those toys-footballs, baseballs, etc. outside in the garage or somewhere.

We don't even let our ds toss things up and down gently in his own hands in the house-because it gets higher and higher-eventually he misses or knocks over something. He has finally broken that habit, and it was hard for him.

Good luck -- if you can get him to stop this now, it's worth in the investment in time and will help later with other inappropriate behaviors.
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I have to disagree just a little bit. Young children can indeed get it, without confusion. I don't think teaching a child early on is confusing. Not when your consistent, make it fun and are patient.

I've not had loads of exp. but enough hands on to know that with just as much attention to teaching as modifying a young child can indeed know the difference. The little guy I nannied was 6 months when I started and I was with him until he was 3. My niece (I nanny ft) is now 18 months and gets it. It's not easy to talk and teach either. I don't think there's any easy way with kids!

I'm aware there are real circumstances for using overcorrection, I'm not questioning the choice when needed...not at all. Just talking about what I've seen in situations that don't necesarily deem overcorrection as a starting point.
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I agree it would be confusing. We have the rule that there's no throwing in the house, outside only.

For my guys, I take away the toy and/or do a time out. When they were really little (say, a year) I would get down on their level, hold their hands firmly, look right in their eyes and say sternly, "No throwing!" and if I saw them about to throw something, I would clap my hands loudly and say, "Ah! No throwing!"

Its worked so far...but who knows what tomorrow will bring, lol!
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I have to disagree just a little bit. Young children can indeed get it, without confusion. I don't think teaching a child early on is confusing. Not when your consistent, make it fun and are patient.

I've not had loads of exp. but enough hands on to know that with just as much attention to teaching as modifying a young child can indeed know the difference. The little guy I nannied was 6 months when I started and I was with him until he was 3. My niece (I nanny ft) is now 18 months and gets it. It's not easy to talk and teach either. I don't think there's any easy way with kids!

I'm aware there are real circumstances for using overcorrection, I'm not questioning the choice when needed...not at all. Just talking about what I've seen in situations that don't necesarily deem overcorrection as a starting point.

You make a good point--I used overcorrection with disabled children who had problems with language-understanding language and were non-verbal.

A child without those challenges may very well be able to learn the difference between the toys.

If it's a severe problem that needs to be solved quickly--the overcorrection technique will do it.

For me personally, throwing games of any kind in the house are just not necessary so I never looked for an alternative toy/activity to allow my children to throw anything in the house.
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