[shy_bear]

have you had any problems enrolling in any programs? A. is 13 mths. He has not had his MMR and Varicella. He is developmentally delayed; we discussed with his ped and decided to hold off until he sees the developmental ped. in a couple of months to make sure it is safe for him. He has had all his other shots. I tried to enroll him in a mothers day out program. They at first told me to get a letter from his doc. stating why we were holding off; I got them that letter. Then I get a call saying they can't take him. It is on a military base and per DOD rules a child MUST be vaccinated to attend. I find this VERY biased on their part and have made numerous phone calls to file complaints and see how this rule can be bent. I am livid; my child has gone through enough in his short life and now these fools are acting this way!!!!

[Whirled_Peas]

My son is 2.5 and unvaccinated. It has never been an issue. Different states have different requirements. You are talking a military base, though, and they can have their own rules. I would think that a medical exemption would be allowed

Here is info on the state laws:
http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtap_childcare.pdf

"Although exemptions vary from state to state, all school immunization laws grant exemptions to children for medical reasons. Almost all states, except Mississippi and West Virginia, grant religious exemptions for people who have religious beliefs against immunizations. Twenty states allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of a personal, moral or other belief."

[Ann07]

Different states have different laws, but if it is on a military base all children have to be vaccinated. My sisters husband is in the airforce and she wanted to hold off some vacinations and she was not able to. If she did they would no longer cover the child under the military insurance and she could not be involved in any programs. I know it is tough and you have to jump through a lot of hoops. I would look for a different program.

My DD's are only partially vaccinated as I am on an alternative schedule and am waiting for certian shots MMR untill she is 24 months. I think it is good that you are waiting for the MMR, since their are delays.

Good luck

[SchmennaLeigh]

No. I was worried about Nick, 2.5 yrs, and preschool this fall. When the paperwork came, I called and left a msg about vaccinations. They called back and said I just had to get a statement about not vaccinating signed by my doctor (who will).

[SchmennaLeigh]

OH! And this is the easy to read State exemption map: State Exemptions Information

[SchmennaLeigh]

Also: Military info: VacMilitary
The Military Vaccine Resource Directory

Also some on this page: Vaccination Liberation Exemptions

[Stormster]

Can I ask why delaying MMR is important in the case of children with delays?

[ProspectiveSingleMom]

Stormster -- in a very small percentage of children, the MMR vaccine can trigger autism and/or neurological damage. There is even a federal program that provides payments to the families of children who are disabled because of a reaction to vaccines. While the risk is low for the general population, some feel that children with developmental delays are at higher risk and that waiting until the brain is more fully developed decreases the risk.

[devildogwife]

Originally Posted by Ann07

Different states have different laws, but if it is on a military base all children have to be vaccinated. My sisters husband is in the airforce and she wanted to hold off some vacinations and she was not able to. If she did they would no longer cover the child under the military insurance and she could not be involved in any programs. I know it is tough and you have to jump through a lot of hoops. I would look for a different program.

My DD's are only partially vaccinated as I am on an alternative schedule and am waiting for certian shots MMR untill she is 24 months. I think it is good that you are waiting for the MMR, since their are delays.

Good luck

Okay, I'm pretty surprised to hear that. Cameron isn't vaccinated (yet) due to his CHD and has been covered by Tricare (military health insurance) the entire time. No one from Tricare has ever said a word to me about that. There isn't any way that we'd lose his insurance coverage because of this.

[sheababy]

We have vaccinated but according to the CDC website, both the MMR and Varicella can be given between 12 and 18 months. Our doctor recommended waiting on the Varicella because I was not sure I was immune, I had to get tested first. I'm not sure this is helpful in the long term but at least the short term hopefully.

Here is a link:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/sch...dule_bw_pr.pdf

[Linny]

...Stormster -- in a very small percentage of children, the MMR vaccine can trigger autism and/or neurological damage. --Prospective Single mom

There's a LOT of discussion about the validity of this anymore, especially since the formula has been changed within recent years. I know there's been some challenge to this because of the one family who actually won some settlement from a manufacturer when their child was affected---BUT, it remains a mystery as to whether the child was actually affected DIRECTLY from the vaccine, or whether, do to the child's ALREADY EXISTING problems.......in my mind, the jury is still out.

I hate to have my kids vaccinated. But I'm also old enough to remember some kids at school who'd contracted polio and other maladies. I agree it's an individual choice; but while you or I might choose to do one thing regarding our children's health and vaccines, you can appreciate that other parents-who send their children to public functions/schools, etc need to be better assured that their child won't contract certain diseases from other children who might be unprotected, or even carriers.

I think if you could have a physician document that your child shouldn't be vaccinated, that would 'fly' with the military. Dh was military for eight years and while I know there were times things seemed to be written in stone, sometimes, there was a 'way around it', especially with something like this where the child may be more at risk.

Sincerely,

Linny

[shy_bear]

His ped. is a military doc and had no problem with us holding off. It has not effected his Tricare at all. The only thing they will not do is seperate the MMR shot into three seperate vaccines. IF we want that done we have to go off base and pay for it. I ended up calling EO to file a complaint. They want us to have a sit down meeting with the daycare director; I am going to pass. Now that I am calmer I don't want him to go there anyway; they don't want him then fine he deserves to be somewhere that he will be fully appreciated and taken as is. We signed up for Gymboree classes today and he will start going to library time once the girls go back to school.

[Ann07]

This was in 2004 when her daughter was born. I remember her calling me and asking what she should do? Either times have changed or it depends on the child or the base. Her daughter was perfectly healthy and she did get all the shots.

[SupaModel]

Originally Posted by Linny

you can appreciate that other parents-who send their children to public functions/schools, etc need to be better assured that their child won't contract certain diseases from other children who might be unprotected, or even carriers.

Linny

I think the children who are not vaccinated would be more at risk right?? Not kids that are already vaccinated. If I am wrong please let me know.

I never thought that DS would catch something from a child that wasn't vaccinated. If this is true I would be LIVID if anyone (school, daycare etc...) had my child in an enviorment where he could get sick. I'm talking major rage!

[ProspectiveSingleMom]

Good point, SupaModel. The reality is that not everyone has to be vaccinated for everyone to benefit ... if the vast majority of people are vaccinated, then the chances of even an unvaccinated child getting sick are low due to the fact that there are so few potential carriers to spread the disease. Unless you live in an area where a lot of people don't have access to health care, the chances of your child contracting one of the illnesses for which vaccines are widely used are slim-to-none. Yeah, there are occasional outbreaks where a handful of people will pop up with measles or mumps or whatever, but 20 people in the whole country having a disease isn't exactly an epidemic.