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Old 03-31-2011, 02:48 PM
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Can you claim foster kids on taxes?

Last year, we were told you could, as long as they have been in your home six months, but ours hadn't at that time. This year, the woman that is preparing our taxes just called and said although they have both been in our care over six months, we cannot claim them unless they have a social security number. They don't have social security numbers. They are babies and have been with us since early on. Anyone know anything about this?
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Old 03-31-2011, 03:12 PM
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They have to have a social security number to be claimed on your taxes.

Chances are they DO have numbers, but you haven't been told. I believe you need a SS number to have Medicaid, for example. Maybe it's needed for WIC, too. And in many states, the SS # functions as their individual ID number in the foster care system - though many case workers don't know that. The SS numbers are usually filed for by the hospital staff when the babies are born - right along with filling out th ebirth certificate.

If you have anything that lists their full legal names, you can usually take it down to the SS office and ask what the numbers are - if they can find the kids in their system, they'll tell you the numbers.

If they really don't have social security numbers, someone NEEDS to file the papers to get those. The children's caseworkers need to get on the ball and get them.
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Old 03-31-2011, 03:14 PM
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yes you can claim them as long as it has been 6 months and 1 day or longer or you got them from birth and they have had no other home....and yes you need thier social security numbers...you would have to ask your caseworker to obtain them.
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Old 03-31-2011, 03:45 PM
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It's not 6m & 1 day, it's 183 days (365/2 + 1). If they are less than 6m old and they came to your home from the hospital then you can also claim them. However, if they went home with anyone else and then came to you then you can't claim them.

Yes, they do have to have SSNs. So you will need to get them from the CW. If the kids came into care at birth DHS would have filed for a SSN. Also, at this point the BPs may have claimed them, which would make yours rejected if you efile. Then you would have to paper file with proof that you've had them for the alloted amount of time.
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:58 PM
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If the children do not have SS #'s (I had one that did not), the social worker can give you a Tax Identification Number that can be used in place of the SS #, for the purposes of claiming the child on taxes. One of my now AD's used a TIN for 2 yrs. After I adopted her, I got her an actual ss number.
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:06 PM
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uh guys....my L did NOT have a SSN when she came to me, so it IS possible. But there was also a mistake with the BC...as in she didn't have one done either. So no BC no SSN either....SS looked and no she didn't have one when I asked.

They would have needed a tax ID number. That's what I'm using for L even though she has been adopted but I could not get a SSN without an amended birth certificate and it just came in the mail this week.
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:30 PM
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One of ours had no name on the birth certificate so he had no SS number. He was unable to get a SS number or TIN number without name. After we adopted and got his SS number we were able to go back and amend our taxes from the previous year
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:49 PM
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Our AS and our STBAD came to us as newborns and neither was assigned a SS# prior to adoption. Both CWs told us they knew they'd get new ones so they just never filled out the paperwork. For my AS we ammended our taxes after adoption, we plan to do the same thing for STBAD. It is possible and happens, more than once in our case.
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Just wanted to back up what ImpactingLives mentioned. The 6 month rule generally doesn't apply to a baby born during the tax year. Technically, any baby can be claimed by SOMEONE as a qualifying dependent even if they were born at 11:59 pm on December 31st. Whether they are biological, adopted, or foster. The 6 month rule is designed to prevent more than one tax payer from claiming the same child as a dependent.
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this is an old thread, but I am just wondering...is this 6 months in the same calendar year? Or just 6 months total now matter what month they came in?

For example, if a child came into care in October 2012 an stayed until May 2013, can they be claimed on the 2013 taxes?
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Six months total (as long as the six months is the majority of the year).
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Six months total (as long as the six months is the majority of the year).

so if 3 months are in one year and 3 months are in one year, then what does that mean?
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:16 PM
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You don't get to claim them. It has to be the majority of the tax year, so the six months and a day have to all fall in 2012. This is actually the first time I will get to claim foster kids as I have had some longer than six months before, but they have not been here six months in a given year---until this year I actually have two. One I got June 29th and I insisted that if they were going to place her with me it had to be before July 1st, so that I would be able to claim her if she was still here at the end of 2012 (which she is).
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so if 3 months are in one year and 3 months are in one year, then what does that mean?

No, sorry...it has to be during the tax year.
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