[greenrobin]

Or natural consequences as the case may be.

Bubba has, for some time, been peeing on the bathroom floor. Usually at night. Usually just inside the door. It took me over 1 1/2 years to finally figure out it was him and stop yelling at the dog.........so I'm not too bright. Sue me.

It stopped for a long while after I confronted him on it. Then it started again. It was intermittent. Yesterday, Bubba was in trouble for something minor. He got mad, left his room to use the potty, stepped inside the door and let 'er rip. All while I was sitting right here. As consequence, he had to wipe it up, do some time, and then scrub the bathroom floor. I told him if it happened again, we'd scrub 2 floors.

He apparently needed to test me in this.

Today there was pee before church. So, in the interest of time, he wiped it up and was told he'd be scrubbing after church. He just completed the little hall and the main hall upstairs. It sounds way worse than it actually is--it's a kind of mini room. A 6 x 8 rug would cover most of the floor. But he scrubbed it. And he didn't argue. And he will continue to scrub every time he pees. He's 6. The potty is about 4 feet from the door. I think he can make it. He says he can.

Pee on the floor--boo. Freshly scrubbed floor every day--plus!

I should feel guilty. Or angry. I don't. He should be mad. Or something. He doesn't.

Life with RAD. Weird.

[lucmarmic]

LMAO....does Bubba want to meet my Honey Girl? lol maybe they are long lost siblings! My girl will say I need to use the potty and than go to the bathroom and pee. Just not in the toilet. Given she is Three but she uses the potty at daycare and pre school and in Grandma's bathroom. So she cleans it up...the whole time saying "this is disguuuuuusting!" I am glad to hear I am not the only one! I feel for you really I do, but I can't help but laugh. We only have a problem about once a week.

[potentialsinglemom]

Poor you...just to give you heads up. The dog may occasionally go behind Bubba and pee in the same area. My mom had the same issue with my 6,7 and 9 yrs old nephews strategically missing the toilet...not because of RAD but pure laziness. No matter how much bleach she put on the floor and the walls, the dog thought it was their indoor bathroom.

[Ashley-n-D]

Greenrobin just wanted to say thanks for giving me a giggle I needed that today ! You seem to have a unique way of looking at bubbas issues that I can only hope I can pull off if faced with a challenging child. Thanks for the funny, insightful honesty you bring to this forum! !

[greenrobin]

Originally Posted by potentialsinglemom

The dog may occasionally go behind Bubba and pee in the same area.

True, except that there's not enough pee for 2 in the puddle. Ever. And when I ask him, he has this "tell" where he pulls the collar of his shirt up and sticks it in his mouth. I always ask first. And then I wait to see what happens to the shirt.

Bubba will chew through a shirt faster than any kid I ever met!

You know how I figured it out? There was pee under a space heater and nowhere else. The dog, a female, is too big to get under the heater. It took some concerted effort for him to aim that well. But that's what he did. He showed me how.

And there is a distinct difference in the.......um.......aroma. Not even a pretty picture, am I right? In my whole life I never expected to be able to even have the NEED to detect the olfactory difference between dog and human boy urine.

Ashley-n-D and lucmarmic, I'm glad I could help brighten you day! You know, you always have 2 choices--laugh or cry. I prefer laugh. Glad to see you do too!

[cecegarrett]

Ya know... it's been an awful AWFUL weekend here. You just made my night a little better. It's my 4 hour turn to stay awake and watch our 4yoBD.. she had h1n1 and is horribly ill. I digress. She is 4, not RAD, in fact she is the product of attachment parenting? And she flat out refuses to poop in the potty. We have tried EVERYthing. SO, I had this awesome bright idea. I told her that due to the economy, the stores were going to stop carrying pull-ups? Um. yeah. Not such a great idea on my part. Before she got sick on Thursday she shared her brilliant idea of using old grocery bags to poop in. (explaining how she could put her legs through the handles and so on)

When we took her into the doctor for the flu, he wanted a UA? She freaked out. She was horrified at the concept of peeing in a cup. But she is fine with pooping in a bag.

Needless to say, when she is feeling better, I will happily tell her she can use pull ups until college if she promises to never poop in a bag.

[greenrobin]

oh, cece! You just made my morning!

Do NOT get any more pullups--she's testing you....not unlike Bubba. I'm really sad that she got the Hiney flu, but don't give in anyway. I'd do a reward system for hitting the potty. I'd also talk up how big girls who are going to get to go to (kindergarden? Disneyworld? Grandma's for an overnight?) poop in the potty. The BIG girl potty. Flowergirl would NOT poop in the little potty. Had to be the big one. And if that doesn't do it, have her clean up after herself. That usually seals the deal for them.

And I'd get rid of every plastic bag in the house. Moveable poop receptacles! HA!

Thank you for sharing. I'm a looooong time out of bio-little-kid-dom (my biobaby just turned 14 a week ago), so it's wonderful to be reminded that all kids are quirky regardless of where they come from.

Hope her recovery is speedy and uneventful!

[DoYaReallyThink]

I have a 6 yo that peed on the BR floor this weekend. She swore that it was because she missed. Her pants were dry and it was about 6 inches from the toilet. She scrubbed the floor and did sentences. Her handwriting has improved so much since she came here. LOL

[thelowlanders]

Been there done that. The whole "I'm angry now I shall puddle, or even worse, paint" child. Best of luck to you. And good job with the no emotional response.

[mommy09]

My 3 y/o (almost 4) fs does the same thing. He poops and pees his pants when he is mad at me. Keep in mind he is fully potty trained and this only happens after I tell him to do something he doesn't wanna do. One example is when I tell him he needs to be quiet while I'm on the phone or nursing my daughter..... I'll tell him to go play quietly and 2 minutes later he comes and tells me that he pooped/peed his pants I ask him why and he just says "BECAUSE I WANTED TO!"

I'm not wanting to shame him but I need to come up with a consequence for it. Any suggestions??????

[thelowlanders]

No suggestions. Just... be glad it's still in his pants. Our FD liked to puddle randomly and paint the walls...

[marigold]

Green, this is not the first thread where your boy reminds me of mine, but the shirt chewing thing did me in. My six year old (also RAD) eats through his shirts all the time esp. when he is trying to control his environment! Almost all of his shirts have little holes in them. I also get rivers of pee in my home and also understand the aroma of dog verses boy, my issue is just which boy did it as I have two free peers! You have to love the clean floors though! I also had collected piggy bank money to help me invest in a carpet cleaner because my boys like to pee on the floor in their rooms too! Oh well, I agree all you can do is laugh or cry, nine out of ten days I laugh!

[greenrobin]

I am so glad Bubba's not the only one eating his shirts! For a long time he ate everything--pillow cases and sheets were particularly yummy to him. I have a total squick issue with spitty stuff.........

The only thing I can even compare this to is when my oldest son was between 2 and 3. All of his shirts were stretched completely out at the neck. Why? Because every moring he'd get out about 5 shirts and put them all on, one at a time, and push his whole self through the head hole. 4 would be worn this way and the fifth would go on over them in the usual manner. He had a spare tire made entirely of clothing!

Fortunately we lived in New Orleans at the time. We discovered Mardi Gras beads. I was able to trade him beads for shirts. He'd take as many strings as he could find and put them all on like a sash. My son, the new Miss America! I took him everywhere like that for a solid year.

He stopped wearing beads for several years. Then in high school he started again. He was a football player--state championship team--and out of the blue he showed up wearing 3 huge strands in bright kelly green--our colors. He wore them nearly every day for the whole season. And when football ended, he put them away.

Now at 21 he just gets tattoos.

[arbuckle17]

You might have a few diapers on hand. Big boy underwear are a privilege.

Or get some plastic underwear, they fit over the undies when they are potty training, and probably not the most comfortable thing to walk around with.

If he recognizes he shouldn't do it then he just needs a good consequence for doing it.

Originally Posted by mommy09

My 3 y/o (almost 4) fs does the same thing. He poops and pees his pants when he is mad at me. Keep in mind he is fully potty trained and this only happens after I tell him to do something he doesn't wanna do. One example is when I tell him he needs to be quiet while I'm on the phone or nursing my daughter..... I'll tell him to go play quietly and 2 minutes later he comes and tells me that he pooped/peed his pants I ask him why and he just says "BECAUSE I WANTED TO!"

I'm not wanting to shame him but I need to come up with a consequence for it. Any suggestions??????

[sunshinemomma]

My daughter used to chew through a shirt a day, sleeves, entire neckline, fingers up to the 2nd knuckle

i bought her a chew necklace, one of heavy woven cotton strings that she could chew as much as she wanted. It "cured" her of chewing her clothes and fingers are now only to the first knuckle!!