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Old 09-20-2009, 04:30 PM
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What happens when the bio dad ends up in jail? not sure why, maybe because of uninsured, registered, tagged car. maybe something else. what's next?
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From my exp... It depends on the people involved in the case. Esp. the CW.
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to RU? it depends on how long he'll be in. plenty of people still manage to work on their case plans from jail. trust me.
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:19 PM
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I think it is going to depend on why he's in but the CW is fed up with them and while they are working the plan, they are doing it minimally and she's fed up with them.
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:27 PM
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in my experiance on short term incarceration everything is kinda in limbo, he could come back and state he was in jail as an excuse for losing child etc..
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Our kids' dad went to prison while they were in care. His case plan was separate from their first mom's, so it meant nothing with regard to mom.

Fed up or not, they generally still get their time to work their plan. And a plan can be worked from prison.
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well fed up, and the cw found out both parents have had previous TPRs. And technically this man is mom's husband, not a bio father to either child so I think she's looking for reasons to cut him off the plan. Honestly, he's done nothing on his plan in a years time.
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I think it is going to depend on why he's in .

it would have to be pretty bad for them to cut him out of RU just for going to jail. i can state with confidence that domestic violence, child abuse, possessing drugs, selling drugs, theft, possession of stolen goods with intent to sell, parole violation, and armed robbery will not automatically take away your chances for RU in some states. neither will receiving a three year sentence after being picked up and your children going into care knowing they will be in foster care for three years. there are still things a parent can do on their case plan from jail. they are sometimes also allowed to attend hearings and continue visits. my personal experience is actually that when we fostered children with parents in jail, those parents actually worked on their case plan more and attended more hearings than when other parents or those same parents were out of jail.
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In our FS's case, his dad was in jail when the child was put into state care. His dad's "time" with the state didn't begin until he was released. In other words, the state is going to start the TPR process on his biomom in November, but can't even think about starting the process on his biodad till July of next year.

I have my own opinions of this.
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well fed up, and the cw found out both parents have had previous TPRs. And technically this man is mom's husband, not a bio father to either child so I think she's looking for reasons to cut him off the plan. Honestly, he's done nothing on his plan in a years time.

Here the husband is recognized as the dad even if they aren't his kids.
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well fed up, and the cw found out both parents have had previous TPRs. And technically this man is mom's husband, not a bio father to either child so I think she's looking for reasons to cut him off the plan. Honestly, he's done nothing on his plan in a years time.

It might very well be that the CW is thinking along those lines, and she may be right. But do keep in mind (just to protect your own heart) that it really ins't up to the CW AT ALL. Everything is up to the judge, and sometimes they see it completely differently. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!
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It might very well be that the CW is thinking along those lines, and she may be right. But do keep in mind (just to protect your own heart) that it really ins't up to the CW AT ALL. Everything is up to the judge, and sometimes they see it completely differently. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!

some children i was fostering once had the sw swearing they'd need to be adopted. mom was still in rehab (out patient) and hadn't completed her program or her plan, one day they went to court, the next day the kids were going back home! the sw was FLOORED, but the judge just saw things differently....like you said.
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it would have to be pretty bad for them to cut him out of RU just for going to jail. i can state with confidence that domestic violence, child abuse, possessing drugs, selling drugs, theft, possession of stolen goods with intent to sell, parole violation, and armed robbery will not automatically take away your chances for RU in some states. neither will receiving a three year sentence after being picked up and your children going into care knowing they will be in foster care for three years. there are still things a parent can do on their case plan from jail. they are sometimes also allowed to attend hearings and continue visits. my personal experience is actually that when we fostered children with parents in jail, those parents actually worked on their case plan more and attended more hearings than when other parents or those same parents were out of jail.

well really, this person isn't a bio anything, nor does he have legal rights to the children. he's also been in and out of jail for a long time apparently. I think the CW is looking for a reason to cut him out of the plan. and as i stated, he hasnt' done one thing on the case plan in the last year, as well as being the one who severely neglected the child. he's not going to suddenly start working his plan now that he's in jail.
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In our FS's case, his dad was in jail when the child was put into state care. His dad's "time" with the state didn't begin until he was released. In other words, the state is going to start the TPR process on his biomom in November, but can't even think about starting the process on his biodad till July of next year.

I have my own opinions of this.


So basically 'to hell with the rule about 15 months out of 22 in foster care?'
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well really, this person isn't a bio anything, nor does he have legal rights to the children. he's also been in and out of jail for a long time apparently. I think the CW is looking for a reason to cut him out of the plan. and as i stated, he hasnt' done one thing on the case plan in the last year, as well as being the one who severely neglected the child. he's not going to suddenly start working his plan now that he's in jail.

i'm not trying to argue with you. you asked "what's next?" and i'm telling you what has happend to me. first of all, if he was the husband of the mom when the child was born, he is legally the father in MANY states. in and out of jail will not always matter. not doing a single thing on his plan until the end, will not always matter. he may in fact start working his plan now that he is in jail. he has a lot more time on his hands now and his attorney will know where to find him.i know you don't like it, i know you don't want to hear it, but it all does happen. it is just the way it is. i don't think it is always right.

our children were in care MUCH longer than 2 years before we even met them....dad worked the plan just enough from jail the entire time before, and after. after we got them, it was almost 2 years before we were able to complete their adoption.

i hope your experience is different, i'm just saying, from my experience, it does not matter as much as you want it to that dad is in jail. it just doesn't.

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