[Stormster]

I was thinking about what was said about jostling the baby after he eats being ok unless he has reflux.

Well, since this is our first baby ....how often should he be spitting up? He spits up (the food sort of spills out, maybe an ounce) about 3 times a day. I only saw him vomit once where it really shot out.

And what happens is (I know, talk to the doc) he gets hungry again, overeats and spits up!.

This is probably normal but do other babies keep everything down? Because if they do, we have a problem, not serious but something to be aware of.

Oh and by the way, Ethan does NOT have MRSA. It is the same bug he had in Michigan but it just wasn't treated right...great 8 days on IV and it didn't work!

[Emster]

My Woobie spit up ALL the time until he was many months old. Dr. said he was "just a spitter". He was never in pain or acted like it. It was never truly "vomit", but just stinky milky spit up. As long as he was eating comfortably and steadily gaining weight, she said there were no problems. Its just inconvenient. We had lots of burp rags and bibs handy all the time.

Best of luck with that! And congrats on the new baby!! I lurked and know it took a long road to ge there!

[nikkianni]

Eve was a fountain for the first four months. We never used those cute little burp cloths or bibs. We used receiving blankets. So a little bit a few times a day seems like a Godsend to me.
Really, I think you're OK. The overeating then spitting thing might be something to talk to the doc about though. Also, if Ethan seems to be in any discomfort before or after he spits up, that would be a reason to talk to the ped.
Eve's ped told us not to feed her again after she spit up. And she never seemed interested, so it wasn't a problem.

[Stormster]

Ethan has colic. That's why he wouldn't sleep for two days and kept batting at his tummy. That is why he had no appetite and would knock the bottle out of my hand when I tried to console him. That's why he is constipated and passes gas all the time.

I can't. Yesterday was HELL I even threw him in the swing he hates (worked but then again a lot of things work for ten minutes). Then I put him in the snap and go and pushed him up a steep hill for about twenty minutes. He cried the whole time, vomited. (My back got really bad on the walk ....it was too steep and too fast but I was desperate.)

So after two Staph infections, 18 months of pain and finding our love baby he turned into a monster!!!!

Does anyone had any advice. I looked all over the internet haven't called the doctor yet. Will in about fifteen minutes. It seems like there's nothing you can do? He cried from 5:30 to 10 something. Swaddled him so tight he only woke up 3 times but he's waking up now. I need strength.

Thanks.

[nikkianni]

I hate to say this, but the only thing that really, really works for colic is time. I know that's not what you want to hear.
In the meantime, try this: Fill a hot water bottle or get a heating pad. Place him belly down on it and wrap him up. That'll help with the tummy pain at least. Oh, and if he won't stay on the bottle/pad, put him on your chest with the item between the two of you.
Eve had a very slight case of colic to go with the reflux and our evenings were terrible for about three months. She'd scream from 7 to 11 EVERY night. That was the only thing we could do that would eventually work.
Oh, and I've heard some hospitals have weekend programs where volunteers and nurses take care of colicy (sp ?) babies for a few hours so moms can take a break. Maybe you could check in your area?

[bajj]

My first son spit up all the time. Large amounts. He was on soy formula due to a milk allergy.

My second son spit up even more and wasn't gaining weight. He had an upper GI and sure enough, he had severe reflux. He was put on 2 different meds and finally started gaining some weight.

Spit up is normal, as long as he's gaining weight!

My oldest also had colic. Oooo, I am so sorry you're going through that!

[Stormster]

hi everyone

just got back from doc he said Ethan looks great (finally pooped in his office! go figure). But he says he's colic (y) and many baby's are sometimes but Nikki isn't that ENOUGH????

If it was more I don't know what I'd do. Gonna try the heat thing.

Thanks.

[jaenelle]

I don't know. Yuna has hardly ever spit up, so I don't have practical advice, but did want to say I'm sorry you're going through this.

[Stormster]

She's really growing up!

[nikkianni]

Did you try the heat thing Storm? How did it work? I forgot but another thing that worked with Eve was to swaddle her up tight, stand up and sort of do the side to side rock while singing. I have no idea why but after about 25 minutes of screaming she'd calm down and zonk out. Her favorite songs were "My Favorite Things" and "The Age of Not Believing." I'm sure this one was totally subjective but it worked when rocking and walking didn't.
On a side note, I put in Bedknobs and Broomsticks last Saturday while I cleaned and she played on the floor. She totally ignored the movie until "her song" came on. Then she pushed up and was glued to the screen through the whole song. maybe I should try out Sound of Music this weekend.

[Vogi2002]

Have you tried switching to Soy? Friends of ours did (even when the dr said it wouldn't help) and they said it has been a miracle....

I will say though about this time of age is right around when Cooper stopped sleeping at night suddenly and it IS awful. Talk about putting you through the ringer!! Do you have anyone that can come and help you? I know the best thing for me was going to my mom's for a week and letting her take over when I was tired.

Good luck!

[Stormster]

OK first of all, his colic isn't at night so someone is definitely looking over me.

He doesnt' sleep during the day and then it peaks around 6-8pm

Today was tough. But I did get him down just now which is 2pm EST. Only took 6 hours, a long car ride didn't help.. Swaying,singing, nothing helps except he does like to stare at the sky outside while being swayed vigorously but it gets exhausting flinging all that weight around!

BUT I couldn't take anymore so I tanked him up and he fell asleep at the bottle but this time I didn't let go. I knew he'd wake up again because he was in so much pain it cuts right through the sleep. When he woke up he found him cradled closely and tightly to me with his tummy pressed gently against me. His face was in my neck and for fifteen minutes he was writhing around but NEVER took his face out of my neck except to nuzzle my face. It was so intense it was like he was begging for help and found some sort of comfort. Several times he looked up and opened his mouth right on my mouth eww staph but it worked he's fast asleep.

Meanwhile I am DEF going to ask for Soy. Heck I use Dr. Browns and Similac Advanced and my son has the worst gas I ever saw. Today I had to change what I thought was a badly soiled diaper only to find it was clean but his gas is just soooooo bad. How can a little baby have such smells coming out of him!

So i'm learning but the heat is hard because he squirms when he is in pain. I however enjoyed it on my aching back. Note to self: change the feeding/carrying side every now and then!

So yeah I have GOT to get him into that sling. He clearlly responds to close contact and since I don't breast feed and am generally so busy keeping him alive I forget that.

[Vogi2002]

Storm - yeah that's how my friend's baby is...she doesn't scream as much as she whines and winces like she is in pain. They switched to soy for a day...(even though thier dr said it wouldn't help) and BAM it was better the next day, so they kept her on it. I would call your doctor TODAY and ask if you can try it over the weekend (Saturday might be good if your dh is home). I know they wished they had a while ago. She told me how guilty she felt because she didn't think back on these past few months (her baby is a few months old) as "joyous" or anything...I laughed and said how normal that is!! LOL

((((((hugs))))))) it's hard being a first time mommy and going through that because you feel like it will NEVER end!!

[Stormster]

I got the heating pad on him...foldedit in half kept it on the lowest heat obviously but it def. worked!

He didn't pull his legs up once!