[SadMomma]

Originally Posted by skyeblue0704

I am sorry this happened to you and your child.

Thank you sky. I pray he is ok and happy. We last heard from him on Decemer 15th. We know we have to try and move on in some kind of way, so we can heal. But this process has opened our eyes a lot.

[skyeblue0704]

You are welcome. I guess thats all you can do is hope and pray the child is happy and taken care of. I wish people would think of other peoples feelings espeically when a birthparent is not sure of placement. I wish they would think it through before they involve adoptive parents.

[SadMomma]

Well the holidays are over and our lawyer made sure to have a letter on the agencies desk saying you promised to renew my clients license this week. She ended up talking to the agency which told her they mailed us the paperwork to reinstate our license. So now we wait to see when we will get it and if it is the right documentation.

[lonni]

Good!! I hope you are soon a Mommy again to more children who stay forever!!

[SadMomma]

Well to know surprise the agency didn't send our reinstatement papers for our Foster Care license. If we go to the new agency their classes don't start until March. We are just so outraged that an agency could on purpose cause us so much pain, after we already lost our son. We still havent heard from him or his Birth Mother since December 15, 2006 when he was suppose to visit and it didn't happen. This battle with just trying to get the basics from this agency and move on, is costing us so much. I wonder when will they wake up and do the right thing.

[Linny]

I'm sorry you're having to deal with such an unethical agency, not to overlook the grief from losing a child....(HUG).
Maybe MI is different than the state I live in, but I've been led to believe that many of the states do not require a couple to go through the 'required state classes' again, just because you are having to transfer to another agency??
If your license was still valid (and I'm guessing it was)...then you shouldn't be further penalized by having to go through the prep classes again...

As for having to transfer to another agency......we've personally had to deal with this too, having dealt with one that was basically not ethical in it's dealings. That is in the past, and the new agency has been a gem. In fact, their efforts helped us find our new baby, and they have been completely top-notch in prefessionalism.

Sincerely,

Linny

[SadMomma]

Originally Posted by Linny

I'm sorry you're having to deal with such an unethical agency, not to overlook the grief from losing a child....(HUG).
Maybe MI is different than the state I live in, but I've been led to believe that many of the states do not require a couple to go through the 'required state classes' again, just because you are having to transfer to another agency??
If your license was still valid (and I'm guessing it was)...then you shouldn't be further penalized by having to go through the prep classes again...

As for having to transfer to another agency......we've personally had to deal with this too, having dealt with one that was basically not ethical in it's dealings. That is in the past, and the new agency has been a gem. In fact, their efforts helped us find our new baby, and they have been completely top-notch in prefessionalism.

Sincerely,

Linny

If we transfer then we won't have to do the classes, but if our current agency won't transfer then we will. This is because our current agency let our FL expire w/o any notice or w/o sending any renewal papers, which we had to request ourselves. The day after they let us expire they told our lawyer, oh we didnt understand renewing your license to be your request, we thought you only wanted them transferred. We said 1st we shouldn't had to ask for the renewal and 2nd how are you going to transfer an expired license. It is almost like they laughed in our face.

[SadMomma]

Well what do you know our current agency faxed over the paperwork to our lawyer so we can reinstate our FC license, renew, and transfer. They told our attorney they mailed us the orginal forms to our house which they didn't. The orginal forms are the ones that have to go to the state. But we were able to get the faxed forms filled out and sent them back to our lawyer. She then sent them to our current agency, so they can start the process. So they are still 1/2 way jerking us around. Just as a precaution we signed up for the next Pride class at the agency we are trying to go to. It doesn't start until March, which would mean more delays and the babies that were available to us, who knows where they will be.

[Vanabelle]

I can't even begin to imagine how hard these past few months have been for you and your family. Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers daily.....and I hope this pain will be lessened soon(with a new arrival)! That agency should be closed for all their mistakes and unprofessionalism.

My heart goes out to you......your an amazing woman!

Annette

[Leafy]

As I write this next to me is my new baby daughter, who we brought back home yesterday. We have some legal hoops to go through, and although I told my self we would "hold back" a little bit I can't help bonding 100%, and after all that's what she deserves. I think of SadMomma every day and hope to see you with this gift very soon.

[SadMomma]

Originally Posted by Leafy

As I write this next to me is my new baby daughter, who we brought back home yesterday. We have some legal hoops to go through, and although I told my self we would "hold back" a little bit I can't help bonding 100%, and after all that's what she deserves. I think of SadMomma every day and hope to see you with this gift very soon.

Oh my, i am so happy for you. This is news I need to hear. I said that when we get a new baby I would hold back, until things are i final but I know I won't be able to. It is not thing like the Love you feel for your child.

[SadMomma]

Hi all,
We are still waiting on our renewal and transfer. After filling out the paperwork and sending it back to the agency through our lawyer, we still have heard nothing. WE met with Hear My Voice yesterday, the organization that assist in contested adoptions. We are preparing to take our fight all the way up the state and they are assisting us. What do you know when we walked in, the "Baby Jessica" parents were there. I am sure you all have heard their story. They talked with us for a good 3 minutes and gave us words of encouragement. The organization did talk back to the agency we are trying to transfer to and the twins they had may be adopted by a family relative.

[Scarlet Moon 13]

Originally Posted by SadMomma

Hi all,
We are still waiting on our renewal and transfer. After filling out the paperwork and sending it back to the agency through our lawyer, we still have heard nothing. WE met with Hear My Voice yesterday, the organization that assist in contested adoptions. We are preparing to take our fight all the way up the state and they are assisting us. What do you know when we walked in, the "Baby Jessica" parents were there. I am sure you all have heard their story. They talked with us for a good 3 minutes and gave us words of encouragement. The organization did talk back to the agency we are trying to transfer to and the twins they had may be adopted by a family relative.

Baby Jessica, did they tell the truth?

[SadMomma]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Moon 13

Baby Jessica, did they tell the truth?

what you mean tell the truth. We didnt get in their business or anything. We just met them and they said they hope we find closure to our issues. We didn't ask them details about theres. I have read about the story though

[Scarlet Moon 13]

Originally Posted by SadMomma

what you mean tell the truth. We didnt get in their business or anything. We just met them and they said they hope we find closure to our issues. We didn't ask them details about theres. I have read about the story though

When I first heard their story I was saddened. How horrible it all was.. And it was..

But for every story there are two sides..

Sometimes it is easy to see which side is at fault.. easier for those of us on the outside looking in.

I do not want to see PAPs hurt, nor do I want to see PBPs hurt. But in voluntary adoption someone does hurt.
That is the nature of adoption, someone is happy, someone cries. We all want the child to be well and happy.

Baby Jessica's birthmother asked for her child back within 6 weeks. The AP refused, and dragged the whole business out for 2 years.
It ruined the AP marriage, broke their hearts and made it more difficult for the child who had to go back to the birth parents in the end.

I am a birthmother, but that doesn't mean I am always on that side of the fence in adoption.

There needs to be a reasonable time limit for getting a baby back, 48 hours is too short, anything over 6 weeks to long..

All states should follow the same laws.

It was a very sad event. Adoption should be happy for the new parents, not fearful. Even with time limits..