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10-27-2007, 06:02 AM
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The Golden Compass
I don't know how many of you have heard about this movie coming out in December. It is based on books written by Phillip Pullman, who is a "proud" atheist.
The books have children killing God and doing whatever they want. You can read more about it on snopes here. I personally will not be supporting this movie! Last edited by bajj : 10-27-2007 at 07:49 PM. 
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#2
10-27-2007, 08:18 AM
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I did several searches about this movie, the book, author, etc. since I never heard of it. (I read reviews from amazon so I could get "real" people's views, not just the views of critics, both for and against). It seems to be a "well written" book which could translate into a well made movie, but even those who "loved" the book said it was very anti-Christian/anti-Catholic. They also said it was "dark and scary" for children under 15, so it stands to reason that the movie's content will be as well. From what I gather, not only is there an "absence of God", but all of the adults are untrustworthy - my kids are WAY too young for that kind of content (you can get a pretty good description from the amazon reviews).
I am usually pretty thick skinned about my faith (at times I almost have to be as a Catholic). However, pandering anti-Christian sentiment to young children, in my eyes, is hard for me to get past, especially since it's dressed up in such appealing special effects. Anyway, I will also not be seeing this movie, nor would I let my kids, but I would be interested in seeing an interview with the author where he discusses his reasons (whatever they may be) for making what seems to be an obviously anti-Christian movie for "kids". Last edited by bajj : 10-27-2007 at 09:18 AM. Reason: remove retail link
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10-27-2007, 08:36 AM
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Thanks Ani for the heads up. I will not be taking my kids to see this movie.
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10-27-2007, 05:06 PM
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If you haven't read the book yet, I wouldn't judge, That's a very simple and not so complete version of what the series is about. Basically what really happens is that the church in the series is a corrupt and cruel one. And it is not god that they kill, in fact, they weren't the ones who did it in the first place. I think it's less about being anti-religion and more about being pro-spiriitual and anti-CORRUPT religion (not to say that all religion is corrupt, but historically speaking anything thing that involves a group of people can be corrupted, and that corruption has to be fought.) I'd say read the book before judging, plus the movie may cut out most of the offensive themes in the first place.... Sorry to be rude, but it bugs me deeply when folks haven't read a book and they judge it harshly, especially when it's one of my favourites.
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10-27-2007, 07:35 PM
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I am basing it on what the author himself has proclaimed. You don't have to like my opinions, but no, I will not spend money on the book as I do not like what the author himself has to say. It's ok to disagree, though.
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10-27-2007, 07:57 PM
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True...
Also "God" represented in the book is closer to the GNOSTICISM - Beliefs and practices Gnostic view of God... I don't agree with the Gnostics, but they sure had an interesting perspective on things. They were wiped out though.
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10-27-2007, 10:57 PM
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I am basing my opinion on this: The series' author, Phillip Pullman, is an avowed atheist who has averred that "I don't profess any religion; I don't think it's possible that there is a God; I have the greatest difficulty in understanding what is meant by the words 'spiritual' or 'spirituality.'"
Ani is right, you don't have to like it and I will not spend my money on books or movies when they stand for something that I do not believe in.
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10-28-2007, 12:24 PM
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Thanks Sniffles. I read a lot of info on the author and on the books as well as the movie. I have decided they are not worth my time, or my money. However, that is MY choice, and I understand not everyone feels that way.
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11-05-2007, 05:50 PM
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i have to ask, Sniffles, are you not going to read any book or watch any movie not written by a christian author then? why just choose this one?
synesthia, thanks for the input from someone who's actually read the book instead of just taking other people's word for it and jumping on the bandwagon before putting in the time to research.
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11-05-2007, 06:03 PM
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I will not read books that are geared towards being anti-christan. However, if you are wondering about my avatar, I happen to love the Lord of the Ring series and I am even letting my son read The Hobbit right now. I have many fantasy series that I have read and enjoy including Harry Potter, but when the author is an athetist and he uses his books to spread his way of thinking, then no I will not read.
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11-05-2007, 06:49 PM
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But then you end up proving his point.
I disagree with most of what OSC has to say. That doesn't stop me from reading his books. His perspective is interesting. Other perspectives are valuable. But it really is a good series of books. I'd hate to see what would happen if these folks knew about Fire-Us. If this keeps up there won't be any interesting books except books that certain folks aprove of. That would be no fun at all. I don't see what is wrong with the atheist perspective as long as it's not a hyper annoying atheist...
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11-05-2007, 07:39 PM
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What's wrong is when the author is aimed it to children...and in it has the INTENT of anti-christianity.
I don't think it's wrong to NOT buy a book based on what it's underlying meaning is. As christian people I'm glad that other christians will tell me when something like this comes out. I would be REALLY upset if I saw the movie...or brought my kids to it, without realizing the intent or content.
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11-05-2007, 07:43 PM
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I'm confused as to why you guys are upset that Sniffles and I do not want to buy the books or let our kids watch the movie? Is it not our choice?
No, I don't limit books to Christian authors, but I will not send my kids to a movie that I HAVE researched and know that it is something I do not want them seeing. Even if it weren't something I didn't approve of, it would terrify my little ones who scare easily anyway. So, you can jump all over us if you want to, and you don't have to jump on our "bandwagon" but DO NOT ASSUME we have not studied or researched about the author, books, or movies. And please, don't judge us because of OUR choices!
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11-05-2007, 07:45 PM
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Gosh, I wonder how non-Christian families must feel, when people tell them that books like this shouldn't be ok. We need to remember that not everyone is Christian and not everyone embraces Christianity. There needs to be books for all walks of life...all beliefs...every consumer has a right to pick what works for them.
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11-05-2007, 07:51 PM
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Right...but this isn't on the "general" adoptive parents board ...it's in the CHRISTIAN board...intended to worn other CHRISTIANS of the book.
I'm confused?? I, as a christian, do not think this is okay, I'm not saying that NOONE should see it. I didn't say anything. I was saying that it's NOT OKAY to tell someone to not judge a book without reading it when it goes against thier beliefs. Isn't this the Christian Adoptive Parents board?
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