[SchmennaLeigh]

I'm a Christian and stand firm on the do not judge part of the Bible. There's a difference between teaching right from wrong and judgement. A big, big difference.

[poppy]

Husband of poppy....well I've read through all the posts here at my wife's request and here's my two cents. To the op...If i were you, which it will be soon with my children, I would pray about God giving you the right words to say. Not being there yet, I don't look forward to the day that I have to talk to them. However, right now, I'm trying to instill in my own children a life that is pleasing to God...use your imagination with that. If the day comes and they start asking the tough questions, I pray that God will give me the words or the lifestyle to answer their questions. The best way to teach them is through our life...as far as the moderator gettin involved...that should have never happened. We should all be respectful of others thoughts...I think about in the bible when Christ was invitied into a man's house..a harlot showed up and threw herself down at His feet and washed His feet with her hair....out of respect for the Son of God...they criticized Christ for doing that...bottom line is Christ accepted everyone...no matter what background. Okay, she's looking over my shoulder now....I've gotta go.

God Bless
Bill 1 Peter 5:8

[DreamingAzure]

Thanks Poppy No problem...I knew this would be a heated thread...that's why it took so long for me to find the courage to post it


Christina, Thanks for share your experience with us That is along the lines of what I'm planning on sharing with my children from Vietnam

Clarification(may be I wasn't clear enough): The family I'm referring to in my OP is NOT mine But that of a good friend I've known since I was a little girl. I have been a Big Sister/mentor to T(the daughter) for the last few years since I returned to Texas. I'm the adult T comes and talks to when she has something personal she wants to talk about but just doesn't want to have a "MOM" conversation I found out about this conversation between her & amom and T & her bmom(bmom SAID "I had sex at your age it was 'fun' " which in turn led to the comment in my OP) when she came to me and asked about MY virginity status & sex.

It's something we have been dealing with for a number of months now...but I thought some outside opinions might help.

Anyway Thanks for all the great advice keep it coming!

[LoveJosiah]

[quote=numbr1dbcksfan]

... as a single female ADULT who is NOT ashamed of her lifestyle...


What is your lifestyle? I don' t think anyone here even knows what lifestyle you are talking about.

"It's not always all about you" as my dad often told me as a teenager.

[SchmennaLeigh]

Re: judgement and sins:

"For if you forgive others when they sin against you, your heavenly Parent will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, God will not forgive your sins."
Matthew 6:14-15

Matthew 7:1-5 [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? [4] Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? [5] Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
(Meant for the Hypocrites that were judging others that did not live up to the Jewish standards.)

http://www.russpickett.com/basic/judging.htm

The purpose of "judgement" isn't to condemn or criticize. The purpose is to restore the person to the believer. Criticism isn't what we want. We want to prayerfully bring our brothers and sisters back to Christ.

[myheart]

I agree 100% whole heartedly with poppys husbands post.

Pray for the words to flow from your mouth. God will and is always there for guidance. If you ask him to guide you,.. you will not be steered wrong.

I do not agree in judging others for God is the Judge and only he shall pass judgement.

Many Blessings,
Myheart

[LoveJosiah]

Absolutely - bring our brothers & sisters back to Christ, if we can. But what if they are not Christians, don't want to be and are proud of their sin? Like it sounds like this Bmom is. Do you sacrifice the innocence of your children and allow them to continue to be around these people? People that are proud of living/have lived in sin and are encouraging children to have sex becasue it was "fun"?!
No!!! We are to try to get sinners saved, but there is a point to "Come out and be separate".

Again, God's Word tells us to judge people by their fruit and to keep ourselves away from evil. As parents that is our duty. He didn't leave us here brainless to subject our children to evil influences by reason of being too weak to make a strong, wise decision about who and what our children should be around and who should be allowed to speak into their impressionable spirits.

Will you let your child be around a child molester and say "Oh, God will judge, but for now just let little Sally be around Merv the Perv. Afterall, it's not for me to judge." PUH-LEASE! OF COURSE IT IS FOR YOU TO JUDGE! YOU'D BETTER JUDGE or you have no right to parent. That's what parents do, they JUDGE what and who their children should be around.

Some Christians need to get some backbone and rise up and protect their families.

[numbr1dbcksfan]

It isnt that it is all about me.. it is about all who choose to be non-christians.

The OP just clarified that an inappropriate comment was made by the birthmom. That puts a whole other twist on things -- how to counteract that.

It is quite different than repeatedly declaring ones beliefs as correct and all others wrong.

It, of course, is VERY inappropriate... christian or not.. for any adult to tell a teen it is ok to have sex because it is fun....

But not because the bible tells you so... I dont see that working with a teen...

[LoveJosiah]

Heavenly Parent? What Bible are you reading?

[myheart]

But not because the bible tells you so... I dont see that working with a teen...[/quote]

I personaly have seen it work for many teens. I also know that temptation is real . As a praying parent the only thing I can do is teach them and pray with them in hopes that they will be able to fight off tempatation...when temptation comes a lurking. no one is perfect the only living man whom ever walked this earth was Christ. We are all sinners and as christians we Know that when we fall short of the Glory of God he will forgive us...all we have to ask.
Myheart

[LoveJosiah]

CLARIFICATION: The purpose of "judge" as I am using it is to discern what is best for yourself and your children, not as in "to condemn others".