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Old 12-03-2011, 09:50 AM
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HELP please! Problems getting visa

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We have bought plane tickets for a trip to Brazil for our 13-year old son (adopted in 1998) and my husband. The Brazilian consulate in Chicago sent his U.S. passport back to us without a visa.... they said they cannot issue a visa, because he was born in Brazil. They think he needs to travel on a Brazilian passport. That is incorrect though; his Brazilian citizenship ended when he became a U.S. citizen. The consulate is not questioning his U.S. citizenship. They just think they he still has Brazilian citizenship. How can I prove to them that he no longer has Brazilian citizenship? I was looking on the web, but could not find any sites that discuss this topic. Also, he was adopted in 1998, before the 2001 automatic citizenship laws went into effect (I don't know if that makes a difference.) Any help would be GREATLY appreciated, thanks!
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You might cross post this on the International Adoption Support forum for more views. http://forums.adoption.com/internati...ption-support/

My first thought is I believe Russia requires that children adopted from there, traveling back to Russia to visit, travel on a Russian passport. I am wondering if maybe Brazil operates the same way?? Some countries recognize duel citizenship and some don't is my understanding.

Probably not any help, but maybe some avenues to explore?

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It appears they operate the same way. I wonder if we can ask to nullify his Brazilian citizenship status so that he can travel on the U.S. passport.
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i am finding out that maybe we have enough time to get him a Brazilian passport; that would be the preference if we can. =)
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With most countries, the parents cannot "nullify" the foreign citizenship. The child will be considered a citizen of the foreign country until he/she reaches 18 and presents himself/herself at the foreign Embassy in the U.S. and formally renounces his/her foreign citizenship.

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i am finding out that maybe we have enough time to get him a Brazilian passport; that would be the preference if we can. =)


Glad to hear you are finding a solution!

You might double check whether he will need his US passport for re-entering the US. Not sure how that works, but it seems like I have read here that that is how it works with kids who travel to Russia on a Russian passport.

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Many Eastern European countries, as well as Latin American countries, continue to regard children placed for adoption overseas as citizens of their countries. They require the child to enter their country -- for example, when coming back for a birthland tour or because the family is adopting again -- on a passport from that country, although the child will have to use a U.S. passport to re-enter the U.S.

This is well known to the U.S. government, and no problem from that standpoint. While the U.S. does not officially recognize dual citizenship, it does not make any objection if a country confers its citizenship on an American who has not actively sought that citizenship. As an example, some countries automatically confer citizenship on a foreigner who marries a person from their country. That is not an issue and does not jeopardize U.S. citizenship.

Some parents of adoptees and some adoptees like the idea that they remain citizens of two countries. In fact, adult Korean adoptees have recently worked with the Korean government -- which has always stripped internationally adopted kids of their Korean citizenship -- to reconfer citizenship on adopted children who want to be considered dual citizens, and the U.S. has not opposed this action. It probably won't catch on totally among Korean adoptees until Korea passes the necessary legislation to exempt adopted children from the military draft in the country.

Many parents and kids do worry about dual citizenship, of course. They fear that their child will be conscripted into the foreign army. They fear that if their boy goes to the country for a visit, and is nearing 18, he may be held prisoner until time for him to serve in the military. They also fear that, since the child must obey all the laws that Korean citizens must obey, the child who travels to Korea could be jailed for violating some minor law that he doesn't even know about.

In general, the U.S. government will advocate for internationally adopted kids in such situations, just as it would for any other American citizens. However, the U.S. government has stated that, given the rules of diplomacy, it may not be able to provide as much assistance to a person with dual citizenship as it would to a child who is solely American.

In most countries that consider internationally adopted children as holding their citizenship as well as U.S. citizenship, a child can officially renounce that citizensip only after he/she turns 18 and presents at the embassy or consulate of that country in the U.S., to make an official renunciation.

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