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Old 07-07-2009, 05:40 AM
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All I know is as of today, five physicians in the state of California are under investigation with regards to Michael Jackson's abuse of prescription drugs. Someone is going to take a fall over his death...that much is plain as day. It seems to me like the media and most of the general population is treating Michael as if he never grew up, as if he were still a child who wasn't capable of making his own decisions. Perhaps that was one of the major problems all along as far as Michael goes...

I heard on the news last night that he had in his possession a drug that is used for anesthesia. Rumor, I don't know.
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I heard on the news last night that he had in his possession a drug that is used for anesthesia. Rumor, I don't know.
Yep, the drug in question is normally used intravenously in the OR as an adjunct to anesthesia. I think it's also used in some ritzy detox centers that offer patients the chance to be knocked out cold while their body is going thru withdrawal. It can be quite a dangerous drug...
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It is frustrating though, I have been following this thread, and I feel the same way about how money and talent can buy you out of a multitude of sins, if it had been a 'normal' person (as in not a superstar) we wouldn't be having this conversation, there would be no doubts as to 'right and wrong'.

If my dh had someone elses small children in his bed with him--he would be locked up immediately--no questions asked! If he actually did anything or not!

The drug he had is intended to be used under close observation because of the serious side effects--including death.
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I think if you take the "Michael Jackson" out of it and just described someone as a man that is a single parent to three small children, hosts sleepovers for other kids in the neighborhood - like in his room/bed, and is addicted to prescription pain medication, but only REALLY gets high when the kids are safe with another caregiver.......well, the foster parents on this board might think there was a new placement coming there way!

I mean, this person could be the kind of guy that would work his case, get his kids back, etc., but I have no doubt that if he were an average joe, he'd have had a visit by CPS by now....
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I think if you take the "Michael Jackson" out of it and just described someone as a man that is a single parent to three small children, hosts sleepovers for other kids in the neighborhood - like in his room/bed, and is addicted to prescription pain medication, but only REALLY gets high when the kids are safe with another caregiver.......well, the foster parents on this board might think there was a new placement coming there way!

I mean, this person could be the kind of guy that would work his case, get his kids back, etc., but I have no doubt that if he were an average joe, he'd have had a visit by CPS by now....

Absolutely. The sleepovers alone would be enough. I saw the news last night and he gave an interview where he said he was being like Jesus, who loved children. That icked me out.
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Yep, the drug in question is normally used intravenously in the OR as an adjunct to anesthesia. I think it's also used in some ritzy detox centers that offer patients the chance to be knocked out cold while their body is going thru withdrawal. It can be quite a dangerous drug...

I read that the drug was propofol. Cameron was on it last year (for a very short time) when he was going through his withdrawal nightmare and trying to get off the ventilator. I believe he was the first baby they had ever needed to give it to. It was like a miracle and it really helped him but it was VERY strong and obviously should only be given under the care of a doctor. My goodness that is something you so do NOT take at home.
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I read that the drug was propofol. Cameron was on it last year (for a very short time) when he was going through his withdrawal nightmare and trying to get off the ventilator. I believe he was the first baby they had ever needed to give it to. It was like a miracle and it really helped him but it was VERY strong and obviously should only be given under the care of a doctor. My goodness that is something you so do NOT take at home.
DDW -- Yep, propofol is the drug in question (brand name is Diprivan). This very, very powerful drug should only be administered by physicians, and is normally only used in a clinical setting. Many anesthesiolists and anesthetists use it in the OR or an outpatient-surgery center when initiating and maintaining general anesthesia. It's also used in radiology departments for certain invasive diagnostic tests. It's initially given via "slow IV push", and then as an "IV drip" throughout the rest of the operation. When administered by a trained physician or nurse anesthetist, it's fairly safe...but it is extremely dangerous for laymen to use. The patient absolutely must be monitored closely...no if's, and's, or but's about it.

I'm so glad it helped little Cam out. I remember reading your posts when he was going thru such a horrible time. It's so heart-wrenching to see the little ones struggling so. I'm so glad that there are drugs like propofol available to help them nowadays. I know the docs use it a lot in certain cases when weaning patients off ventilators.

Like all medications, it can be a lifesaver...when used properly within a clinical setting. It was never intended to be used as a sleeping medication outside of a hospital setting, though; such a strong drug is downright dangerous if it is not used as it was originally intended.
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