[Dickons]

North Texas Dad Fights For Parental Rights - cbs11tv.com

Father's fight to overturn adoption of his son.

Kind regards,
Dickons

[RavenSong]

Dickons, I posted about this case on another site about a week ago. I was hesitant to post about it here 'cuz I didn't want to start a controversy. But since you've had the guts to cite the story, I'll add a couple other links:

Texas Single Dad Stops Adoption; May Get Custody of his Son | Glenn Sacks on MND

If anyone wants to read the ruling by the Court of Appeals for the Fifth District of Texas, you can find it in its entirety at: http://www.5thcoa.courts.state.tx.us....ask+D+9331834

[dpen6]

This makes me sick..we hear so often how its best for the child to stay with adoptive parents because they were their so long...well in this case it looks like the child was illegally placed with this family to intentionally drag on the case so the best interst of the child would HAVE to be to stay with the family. This is horrible. It is unethical. AND everybody involved in this case from the bmother, to the adoptive parents, to the adoption agency is totally at fault for willingly and knowly cause stress to an innocent child. They should be made to pay in some way for the pain and stress the little is going thru and will continue to go through.
Yeah society...just screwed up another child...for the needs of theadults.

This child was stolen from this father, he did everything right to keep his child, he is willing and able to raise this child, and has spent countless dollors to prove it.

The sad thing is that it happens more then we know.

[Jensboys]

I agree. Totally and completely. Classic example about where adoption is about finding a CHILD for a set of needy parents VS. finding a family for a CHILD that needs it.

This child was NOT adoptable. Devastating I am sure for aparents, but he had a parent willing to parent him and not agreeing to the adoption. Simply, he was NOT "available".

[manni28]

That child from the beginning should have been returned to the birthfather.


I blame the bmother and the agency. What I don't understand is she and the bdad have a child already, why all the drama? It's very sad when a case like this ( bdad immediately saying he wants the child) is prolonged. For me, if I were the aparents, and the bdad wanted to parent, the baby would have been returned a long time ago.

-Manni

[RavenSong]

Donna,

I've been following these cases for the past 30 years, and I have to say that the most upsetting thing for me, at least, is how every single case has been dragged on by the adoptive parents. I'm talking about cases that are filed within several months of the childs birth...that are dragged out until the child is 5- or 6-years old. At that point, what judge in his right mind would return the child to his/her birth parents? The judicial ruling always comes down to the "best interests of the child", and the rulings always cite the length of time the child has been in the adoptive home, "the only home the child has ever known"...I've come to detest that phrase.

You better believe that the attorneys know exactly what they're doing by prolonging the case time-wise. It's a crime, at least to me. I see no difference between these types of cases and the old "Georgia Tann" days. People like to think that those days are gone and buried...but they're not. The legacy of Tann still continues to this very day....

[manni28]

I've been following these cases for the past 30 years, and I have to say that the most upsetting thing for me, at least, is how every single case has been dragged on by the adoptive parents. I'm talking about cases that are filed within several months of the childs birth...that are dragged out until the child is 5- or 6-years old. At that point, what judge in his right mind would return the child to his/her birth parents? The judicial ruling always comes down to the "best interests of the child", and the rulings always cite the length of time the child has been in the adoptive home, "the only home the child has ever known"...I've come to detest that phrase.

Actually in cases like this, each side tries to 'wear each other down" until one side settles. What happens then is a guardianship; since it isn't "in the child's best interest", the child ISN'T removed from the aparents home and the bparent retains his/her parental rights. So what you have is two sets of parents that have decision making power in regards to the child's education,medical and religious parenting. Personally, I don't think it's an ideal situation, but it has happen in the past. Has it been successful? I seriously doubt it, but it has happened.

-Manni

[loveajax]

Actually, this is really sad. I have always said I would fight to the hilt for my DD but only AFTER the termination of parental rights (which obviously never happened here). It also appears that they are creating false allegations against him (I say "appears" because that's how it appears to me, don't know...!).

[MamaS]

Originally Posted by RavenSong

Donna,

I've been following these cases for the past 30 years, and I have to say that the most upsetting thing for me, at least, is how every single case has been dragged on by the adoptive parents. I'm talking about cases that are filed within several months of the childs birth...that are dragged out until the child is 5- or 6-years old. At that point, what judge in his right mind would return the child to his/her birth parents? The judicial ruling always comes down to the "best interests of the child", and the rulings always cite the length of time the child has been in the adoptive home, "the only home the child has ever known"...I've come to detest that phrase.

You better believe that the attorneys know exactly what they're doing by prolonging the case time-wise. It's a crime, at least to me. I see no difference between these types of cases and the old "Georgia Tann" days. People like to think that those days are gone and buried...but they're not. The legacy of Tann still continues to this very day....

That DID NOT happen in the case of Anna He and now she is in a boarding school in China -- abandoned by her father, placed away by her mother, forbidden to worship God and not speaking enough Chinese to fit in to her environment. In that case, she should have been left with the adoptive parents in Tennessee.

[thanksgivingmom]

I've been following these cases for the past 30 years, and I have to say that the most upsetting thing for me, at least, is how every single case has been dragged on by the adoptive parents. I'm talking about cases that are filed within several months of the childs birth...that are dragged out until the child is 5- or 6-years old. At that point, what judge in his right mind would return the child to his/her birth parents? The judicial ruling always comes down to the "best interests of the child", and the rulings always cite the length of time the child has been in the adoptive home, "the only home the child has ever known"...I've come to detest that phrase.

Raven, I completely and totally agree. The partnership of the agency, the adoptive parents, and the courts working together to deny a parent their rights - and to deny the child his/her parent that very much wants to raise them - is disgusting.

And I'm very glad that this "strategy" is FINALLY getting some attention!! Because it NEEDS to be addressed.

[manni28]

Actually, this is really sad. I have always said I would fight to the hilt for my DD but only AFTER the termination of parental rights (which obviously never happened here). It also appears that they are creating false allegations against him (I say "appears" because that's how it appears to me, don't know...!).

Lovejax:

I agree they were creating false allegations ( I guess the aparents were hoping the bdad would have "given-up" by now), which is very sad because the child is caught in the middle. Trust me, this case will settle into a guardianship case were the aparents have physical custody of the child while bdad retains his parental rights and has a say in how the child is raised.

-Manni

[healingfeeling]

wow....

that poor child...

how is this acceptable?! this child is going to have major issues and be very confused no matter what the outcome is.

[manni28]

Raven, I completely and totally agree. The partnership of the agency, the adoptive parents, and the courts working together to deny a parent their rights - and to deny the child his/her parent that very much wants to raise them - is disgusting.

And I'm very glad that this "strategy" is FINALLY getting some attention!! Because it NEEDS to be addressed.

TGM:

I don't agree. It all started with the bmom, she already had a child with this man, and she willingly withheld the truth from him ( having his second child). And as I have said before, the law needs to come down hard on women like her who purposely withhold information from everyone. One person should not allowed to cause people so much grieve. They are lying under oak, in the court of the law. This is why I believe ALL agencies should tell ALL bmom's" "If you are lying under oak, in the court of the law, you will be charged with a felony". This protect EVERYONE.

-Manni

[RavenSong]

So, Manni, if adoptive parents do participate in corruption, they get a free ride? It all falls on the birth mother, even if they were in collusion?

For the record, I find the birth mother's actions and behavior reprehensible. She gives the "rest of us" a bad name.

I think there's enough blame here to share between the adoptive parents, the birth mother, and the adoption agency to go around many times over...

Placing all the blame on the first mother of this child is convenient and wrong...

[RavenSong]

Originally Posted by MamaS

That DID NOT happen in the case of Anna He and now she is in a boarding school in China -- abandoned by her father, placed away by her mother, forbidden to worship God and not speaking enough Chinese to fit in to her environment. In that case, she should have been left with the adoptive parents in Tennessee.

MamaS,

I have to admit that I haven't followed this particular case. I kind of got sick of following any of the legal cases involving adoption a few years ago. Can you blame me? It's never going to change...never, not in my lifetime.