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Old 03-31-2008, 12:31 PM
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Exclamation Barack Obama told the crowd that he didn't want his daughters, "punished with a baby"

OBAMA transcript, "When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence education and teaching the children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16. You know, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."


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Old 03-31-2008, 12:37 PM
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http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/348569.aspx

More on the story at that link...

All Obama fans...he is way inexperienced and we can't have this guy running the country.
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:50 PM
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Question Bill Burton, Obama's national spokesman tries to bail out OBAMA.

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"What Senator Obama said and what he believes is clear -- children are "miracles," but we have a problem when so many children are having children. As Senator Obama said on Saturday -- and on many other occasions -- parents have a responsibility to teach their children about values and morals to help make sure they are not treating sex casually. And while he understands the passions on both sides of this difficult issue, Senator Obama believes we can all agree that we should be taking steps to reduce the number of teen pregnancies and abortions in this country."
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My only words are that I hope he did not mean that.

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I'm not sure why you are offended by his views on more education and plans to prevent teen sex, std's and pregnancy?

I sure don't see a 14 year old becoming pregnant as a reward...

Regardless if you support Obama or not, I don't know how it can be an awful thing to not want your child to have a child as a teen or make choices that have consequences such as an STD? That is a punishment imo. I would much rather educate my child on all aspects of sex and what it can lead to than have them learn the hard way.

If you don't believe that a teen pregnacy is punishment, or not appreciate the way he worded it, I can understand that I guess, but isn't the message as a whole something good?
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I guess I feel the 'big picture' message is being overlooked due to a poor choice of words.

The bottom line - he supports education and that, personally, is a message I can get behind - even if it isn't said with the most grace and poise.
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I'm not sure why you are offended by his views on more education and plans to prevent teen sex, std's and pregnancy?

I sure don't see a 14 year old becoming pregnant as a reward...

Regardless if you support Obama or not, I don't know how it can be an awful thing to not want your child to have a child as a teen or make choices that have consequences such as an STD? That is a punishment imo. I would much rather educate my child on all aspects of sex and what it can lead to than have them learn the hard way.

If you don't believe that a teen pregnacy is punishment, or not appreciate the way he worded it, I can understand that I guess, but isn't the message as a whole something good?

I think that the message is good. He might not have said it in the most graceful way but I think the idea that he was attempting to communicate was that t's important for people to be educated.
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Anything that helps keep our teenagers healthy, happy, educated, in school, and heading toward a productive life is good to me. And I am sure that some teen moms (even if they love their children) are thinking that they are being punished. I would rather vote for a person who wants to deal with the issues everyway possible then vote for someone who is just going to bury their head in the sand. And at times haven't we all used a word that maybe we wish we hadn't.

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The word punishment may not be my first choice, but I certainly did not find it offensive. I can't think of any situation where I would wish a 14 year old child to be pregnant. While I think a child is ALWAYS a blessing, the circumstances surrounding the birth aren't always.

I wasn't offended at all, and my bmom was 14 when I was conceived. I have a feeling the word punishment may have rolled through her head once or twice.
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I totally get what he is saying and in front of a microphone I am not sure I would always be an eloquent speaker so I'm cutting him some slack.....

not voting for him in a million years.....

but cutting him some slack.

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I completely get what he is saying. For a teenager... an unplanned pregnancy or an STD could be a punishment. They lose their childhood... Yep, sounds like a punishment to me. Even if you place your child, you still lose your childhood... you're still forced to grow up and make some REALLY adult choices.

I'd much rather vote for someone that advocates education on the front end rather "solutions" on the backend, IE adoption.
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He should have said "I don't want any grandchild of mine to be punished with a 14 year old mother."
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Bromanchik, you said it! It is the baby that is punished by the circumstances of birth!
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He should have said "I don't want any grandchild of mine to be punished with a 14 year old mother."
There is that too......
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4-27-2009 Dad surprises me with a Lady Ugly Stick (an awesome fishing rod that is pink) and a 2nd Iowa Light Artillery Battery jacket. I'm a lucky girl!
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