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Old 09-09-2008, 06:52 AM
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I've always preached abstinence first in my home. The other lesson I taught was protection. They have "Jack and Jill" type bedrooms with a bathroom in between and there are condoms located next to the sanitary products that I placed in a cabinet in that bathroom after our talks. I check on what needs to be re-stocked when I comprise my weekly shopping list. I prayed that they'd wait on marriage but I know temptation is everywhere, and they are no angels. Like Senator Obama I do not want my daughters' bright futures to be jeopardized or have them punished by an unwanted pregnancy should the protection fail or they forget to use it. Should either or both of them find themselves in this predicament then together as a family we'd sit down and make the decision on how to proceed and which choice to make. Adoption as well as abortion would be on the list.


More parents should be like you. You preach abstinence(which is admirable) but understand that your children will make their own choices and allow them to do so. Most of the time abstinence is preached with guilt, which obviously does not work. Girls get pregnant, fearful of their parents reaction, don't know where to turn to. Probably why so many babies end up in the trash. Thank you for being the parent that you are to your children!

It seems as though it bothers a lot of people how he said he didn't want his daughters punished. And yeah, maybe it could of been said differently. But either way an unwanted pregnancy for a teen is going to change everything for them. Keeping the child-they loose their childhood. Giving it up-the loose thier child and it seems grieve that loss for the rest of their lives. Abort the baby-and many grieve that loss as well. He might not should of said punished, but no parent wants to see their child in PAIN.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:43 AM
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More parents should be like you. You preach abstinence(which is admirable) but understand that your children will make their own choices and allow them to do so. Most of the time abstinence is preached with guilt, which obviously does not work. Girls get pregnant, fearful of their parents reaction, don't know where to turn to. Probably why so many babies end up in the trash. Thank you for being the parent that you are to your children!

It seems as though it bothers a lot of people how he said he didn't want his daughters punished. And yeah, maybe it could of been said differently. But either way an unwanted pregnancy for a teen is going to change everything for them. Keeping the child-they loose their childhood. Giving it up-the loose thier child and it seems grieve that loss for the rest of their lives. Abort the baby-and many grieve that loss as well. He might not should of said punished, but no parent wants to see their child in PAIN.

Thank you! My twins I'm afraid would beg to differ, my son is just happy I'm not the type of mom who worries about nuking his bottles and I can get them uncapped, out of the 'fridge, microwaved and into his mouth in 9 seconds or less if I wear sneakers.

I agree that Senator Obama should have used a better choice of words. It is not the first or only time he misspoke IMO. However I understood his message and I fully agree with it. I mentor teens in crisis with my church; this often includes pregnant teens and young single moms. You'd be amazed at the number of girls who have said "I didn't think I'd get pregnant since we weren't in a bed!" Or the teen while pregnant with her 2nd child said "I ALWAYS take the pill when he spends the night but not everyday since I can only see him when my Dad is out of town." Our kids are not being educated and getting pregnant does not automatically qualify you to become a mother. I'm not sure I want either of my kids to throw away their futures due to a few minutes of fumbling in a back seat. I am glad they have a choice.

I honestly admire Governor Paulin and the way she stands beside her daughter in the midst of so much public scrutiny and controversy during such a very emotional and private time, especially after vocalizing her stance on sex education and abortion. Not sure this is the route I'd have taken and I admire her.

I feel as if my daughters live in a fish bowl. Just being ministers kids they are held to a higher standard and watched closely. I can't imagine what it is like for the Governor and her young daughter. They are in my prayers. Tracy
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:03 PM
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Well quite frankly I have found this thread disturbing. The fact that a pregnancy and a life should be up for such moral judgment to start off with bemuses me. And people just keep on buying into it...and the problem will never go away. Why cant we start celebrating each little life, welcome it into our families and nurture all concerned instead of being so tied up in ourselves and man made rules. With out all this judgement there would be no problem.
To call any pregnancy punishment is indicative of the bias in place.
Pro choice is not pro abortion. I lived in a city where they put fluoride into the city water. I am an advocate of flouride, and until then i had given my children fluoride tablets. I didnot want the city to put the fluoride in the water as it took away peoples choice.
pro fluoride but pro choice.
pro choice but not pro abortion.
I to believe in pro choice, but yet did not choose and abortion when i fell pregnant when i was unmarried!
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