[KaseyHamnerM.S.]

I just heard the most atrocious news. A woman in Los Angeles carries other people's babies for a living. She is now 7 months pregnant with a couple's baby. This couple has decided to divorce and NEITHER ONE OF THEM WANT THE BABY ANYMORE!!! I don't know about you but this infuriates me. This should be against the law. I don't care about the adults in this scenario but the child is who I feel sorry for. Let's talk about the confusion awaiting this precious child. The woman who is carrying the baby hasn't decided if she is going to keep it now.

Any thoughts???

[numbr1dbcksfan]

Well...if it is the couple's egg AND sperm....I would think that she would almost have to adopt...I mean....if a DNA test were done it would be their baby....so they should be held liable....once the baby is born it is their child so if they would want to place it they should have to place it as though the mother gave birth.... BUT....if it is her egg and just his sperm he should now owe her child support as any other father would.... Kinda tricky...but those are my thoughts...

[Cleopatrick]

This disgusts me so bad I don't think I could put down what I think without getting banned.

[Sharon]

I agree with numbr1dbksfan.
If this woman is carrying another couple's biological child, then it really isn't just a simple matter of "deciding whether to keep it". I imagine she would have to adopt it... hopefully she meets the state's criteria for an adoptive parent. If she wishes to place the child for adoption, I would think the biological parents would have to be the ones, also, to sign the papers and relinquish the child.
If the child is a product of her egg and donor sperm, then of course that's a different and much simpler matter. If she's the biological mother then nobody can contest her right to keep or place it. From a practical standpoint, those are my thoughts and concerns on the issue.
From a moral standpoint, I have to agree with Cleo. It's sick.
Does the surrogate still get paid, I wonder?
~ Sharon

[FOSTERMOMMY2002]

THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY. I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR ALL ADULTS INVLOVED. IT IS CRAZY. WHAT KIND OF A WORLD DO WE LIVE IN FOLKS? WHY IS IT SOME WOMEN CAN POP BABIES OUT LIKE A PEZ DISPENSER AND THE REST OF US THAT WOUL;D BE GREAT MOMS, HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME HAVING A BABY. VERY UNJUST WORLD WE LIVE IN.

[clara]

Disgust doesn't come close to what I think of this....

I wonder whether the time has come for Aesop's Fables: morality tales once stood for something...............

An apathetic, self-indulgent, abusive, soulless world that breeds AVARICE is what best descibes the society we
live in Fostermommy.

We aspire to teach our children values when all around us deeds are done that are disrespectful of virtually all those concepts we are expected to accept as true and valid.

Who lives the lie in the end?

Where are the authorities in this case: has no one even bothered to report it?


Makes one wonder why people even consider having children?

Sharon, perhaps the whole issue of surrogacy is worth a thread on its own?

Just the idea that this kind of transaction is possible at all makes me sick to my stomach.

[numbr1dbcksfan]

Well....It is not the surrogacy thing that I disagree with...although how someone could make that her career is beyond me- I hated being pregnant- both times.....BUt Im sure that the parents who are not scum appreciate the gift that she is giving them....what disgusts me is that the parents think that just because they change their mind that they no longer have a baby..... Ive read all the posts but I dont really understand what part everyone is disgusted about....is it what I said that the parents would now abandon their child because they decided to divorce?? Im not sure that I would be disgusted by a surrogate mother....or her dicision to be a surrogate for multiple couples..... is that disgusting??

[KaseyHamnerM.S.]

What I am disgusted with is the fact that the couple is ignoring the fact that a baby has been created by their egg and sperm. How can they just walk away. The surrogate is in a dilemma no doubt.

[numbr1dbcksfan]

whew!!! ok so I was on the same page! hehehe

[sweetnoodle]

I have never totally bought in to surrogacy. I feel kinda' like surrogacy like I do about adoption right now . . . there are so many negatives associated with the systems in place, it's hard for me to be objective about it.

This case is a perfect example, isn't it?

I personally am disgusted by the parents not wanting the kid now, whether it is 1/2 biological (sperm only) of fully biological. I absolutely cannot believe they have not been more responsible. Furthermore, at this point, I wouldn't support any legal entity making them do anything, because they shouldn't parent the child anyway.

The whole surrogacy thing could be a VERY long thread.

[patrisha]

I think this is yet another area where laws and morality have not been able to keep up with science.

I'm not sure what I think about a woman that makes a living as a surrogate. There are many wonderful couples that would (and do) benefit from surrogate assistance. Who is minding the moral and legal store though? When a child is born (via a surrogate) what goes on his/her original birth certificate? How would that differ if a sperm donor was used?

What do well tell these children when they grow up?

That's sort of a reverse adoption, "yes, you came from mommy's tummy but we're not related genetically". Glad I don't have to explain that one.

Trish

[lambeausam]

I know next to nothing about surrogacy except the basic concept of what occurs. However, isn't there a contract of some sort that would have to be signed by all three parties prior to the insemination that would address potential "situations" such as this?

[sweetnoodle]

. . . one would think . . .

. . . but hey, who's doin' the thinking??????

[KaseyHamnerM.S.]

What do you think should be the recourse for this precious child?

[clara]

Kasey,


With no voice and no defense, this is already a lost case!!!

The cold reality is that this child will fall victim to procedure and legal technicalities. Who ever out there is prepared to step forward and be this child voice will have an uphill battle with red tape strangelhold on this child's life, before it's life has even begun.

What kind of a chance does he or she stand to live the kind of childhood every child deserves?

How was this possible to begin with? That is what has to change.