Actually, I think this is a very interesting thread.
And of course it proves that each of us sees through our experience.
It seems to me that there's actually two different subjects going on in this one thread. Blame and God. LOL! It's funny how we homosapiens tend to meld those two together! Right now, I can picture that 19-year-old God that I know (sorry - but that's how I see Him). He's hunkered over the engine of his 440 Roadrunner, doing some fine-tuning and He's taking in all our human debates and shaking His head and saying, "Janey, you people STILL don't get it do ya?"
So - on to blame. I had thought that there was difference between the words "blame" and "responsibility" so I looked them up on Wikipedia. Apparently, I was wrong. I've stumbled upon a sort of 'cause and effect' argument. Neat!!
Below is the webpage (typed in blue just below this paragraph) that I came across on Wikipedia. If you guys get a chance, read it. It's fascinating, presenting various therories of blame and responsbility as they are seen through the great philosphers. Though I'm not sure I've settled any arguments....I think I've only opened a bigger can of worms! But then that's what philosphy is supposed to do right?
Blame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On the God thing, God's a huge issue. I'm becoming more convinced though - through talking with more learned people - and through reading, that blame is a human sport and not one God is playing. Does that make any sense?
AA, AlAnon, NA - if you hang around those long enough you start to unlearn what society has taught. The rules morph; a person finds they have a hard time abiding with the status quo's idea of what forgiveness is and what it isn't. Of who God is and who He/She/It isn't.
God becomes more of an issue of our responsbility to ourselves and others as far as changing in order to live as more productive people. A person finally can live in peace with themselves.
Blame falls by the wayside because it brings with it guilt and shame. I.e., a person cannot hope to change if they're constantly telling themselves they're scum.
Also Program doesn't buy into that because that's an excuse for a person to stay stuck in who they are. I.e., "People think I'm slime anyway - so I might as well be slime and not bother."
I hope that all made sense.
Good stuff!!