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Originally Posted by binkybear
LOL, don't get offended. Sorry but I'm not telling you or anyone else anything to get offended about. It's Christmas!! It's Christmas, people might want to believe in Christ to celebrate "Christmas". Freedom of religion doesn't sum it up for the Celebration of Christ's birth..it's not a PC free for all on that one. Sure it's possible to celebrate kindness and peace and love and good will, but don't do it under the guise of something one might not believe in. That was the point.
Timing: If parents can hold a birthday party weeks after a kids birthday for whatever reason they see fit (weather, date of the week it falls on, family scheduels, etc) then so could those who set the date of Christmas way back when. Holidays and timing can get chaged around for all kinds of reasons...shoot we just had Thanksgiving yesterday over here becuase my dad got food poisoning from Bad chinese take out on Wednesday. We knew what the day was about regardless of it's "date or time".
We can play around with everything else, but let's respect what is in fact a specific relgious holiday. It's not offensive, it's reality; Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birth..not a feel good day just because. I respect other religions and their traditions and I'd request mine be respected just the same.
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(wanted to edit, but went over the time alloted...night owl over here!)
Edited to add Just one last thought to try to explain how myself and a great deal of others think:
Imagine your son's birthday is approaching. Your family gets a card celebrating this. It's an invitation celebrating your son's birthday, it's joyous and full of cheer. Those planning the party are incredibly excited about this party. They shop, they plan, they decorate to the hilt. On the day of the celebration friends, neighbors, family and strangers gather in this festive home. Those attending are happy. Your son arrives for his birthday celebration. He's there in the room, his name is scattered about on decorations but no one acknowledges him. The crowd of party goers exchanges gifts they bought for each other, they eat and drink, they don't mention his name or look his way, they don't know or even care that he's there. Your son and your family sit alone, wondering why people would have done this. Why would anyone do this to a son, a friend, a brother? Hold such a gloriously planned celebration and then intentionally ignore the person the day was for. Would your heart break for your son, your friend, your brother? Would you stand up and say, "hey this is a birthday celebration in my brothers name how about acknowledging his existence over here?" Or would you just join the crowd and hope that your son-brother-friend would understand and not be hurt, disappointed, heartbroken. Would you care if you offended those who were using your family member while blatantly choosing to ignore him? Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birthday. He's my brother, my friend and I'm very much ok with standing up to say it's his day! No one "has" to celebrate this day, but if you choose to celebrate in his name then have the courtesy and conviction to do so OR by all means celebrate in another way or name. Don't use a person or a people's belief to feel good. That's my take on it, hope that helps a bit more.