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Originally Posted by coachmur
Bethany B, just FYI in post #18 you said you are "pro choice" but after reading your next post I think you meant "pro life". Just thought I would let you know that.
As to the question of where in the Bible does it specifically say abortion is wrong, the first time would be in Exodus Chapter 20 where it says, "thou shall not KILL" The NIV actually says "murder" instead of kill. Murder is defined as a premeditated and deliberate act. Abortion definately fits the criteria. I also think that as humans we can justify anything that we want to, whether it be right or wrong. All of the arguing will not prove anything. We can argue till we are blue in the face and spout our beliefs on these forums but few if any of us will ever admit that the other is right. What I would challenge each of us to do is to get down on our faces, before the one and only true God and ask Him to show us the truth. His word is clear if one only takes the time to study, and learn the truth. That would be the best thing any of us could do. Let us all stop doing what "we" think is right and all start doing what God says is right.
Right and Wrong is so clear if only we would open our eyes and our hearts to the truth. There will come a day when we stand before God and be judged according to the deeds we have done while we were here on earth.
In regards to paigeturners question about stoning the woman caught in adultery you are misquoting God's word if you think that Jesus wanted her stoned for her sin. That is actually an awesome passage of scripture. You should read it. It is John 8:1-11. Basically what happened was that some men who were teachers of the law and Pharisees brought this woman in before Jesus because she was caught committing adultery. They made her stand in front of everybody, telling them what she had done and asking Jesus, or actually telling Jesus that the Law of Moses said any woman caught in that sin should be stoned, then they asked Jesus "what are you going to do about this?" They were looking to trap Jesus because the Romans did not allow the Jews to carry out death sentences, so if Jesus had said to stone her, he could have been in conflict with the Romans. If he had said not to stone her, he could have been accused of being unsupportive of the law. Jesus put the ball right back in their court by saying to them "if any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her". Because none of them (or none of us, for that matter) were without sin they all just had to turn and walk away until only Jesus and the woman were left. Jesus then said "woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "no one sir, she said" "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin." so as you see, Jesus did not condemn her to death by stoning, but he also did not condone what she had done. Praise God we are not living under the law because Jesus went to the cross for us and took our punishment upon Himself. His life was the atonement for our sin unlike in the Old Testament times when a person sinned they had to go out, kill the best calf or lamb, gut it out, build a fire, and make a sacrifice to God. That would be difficult for me even though I live on a ranch full of fat calves, and a few fat lambs and I might add that I am a great shot with a pistol and a rifle but I daresay it would be next to impossible for those of you who live in cities. Most of you probably would have no idea where to even begin such a project, lol. The bottom line is "yes, we are all sinners, we all make bad choices, but God is always there ready and willing to forgive us. We only need ask Him.
Well, there is your sermon. Good thing it is Sunday, LOL.
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