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Originally Posted by Saya
I generally agree with you, but I want to make the point that he WASN'T a birthfather. He was her father. He was a father who was also a monster and killed his girlfriend and his children. Sadly, stories like these - of parents (through birth OR adoption) who abuse or neglect or even kill their children - are all too common. But this has nothing to do with "birthparents" or even adoption per se - except that in this particular case it's a terrible shame that the system didn't realize what kind of a father he was and remove the child from his custody.
Still, it's a terrible, sad, and shocking case, and I totally understand how OP's friends much be devastated. My heart goes out to them.
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No - I know he wasn't this child's birthfather - you are absolutely right. I said he was a birthfather, because he is so to the child that he had placed (the one mentioned in the OP).
That's why I said that I can see why this family and their friends view him as such, but for me, I don't know this man as a birthfather per se, so my view of birthparents isn't changed because of this tragedy.