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Originally Posted by aunlanpo

The laws of the land should apply equally for everyone, whether it's for one child at a time or more than 400 at a time. If I even suspect that my neighbor is abusing his eldest daughter, and I report it to the state, CPS begins an investigation, and removes ALL of the children. That isn't based on religion, or race, or gender, or any other thing. A pedophile grooms children to be obedient victims. How is this different? The children are being groomed by their culture. And in that respect, it's not a matter of just not sharing beliefs, the culture is wrong. Some things are black and white. Some things are right and some things are wrong. It's not enough to just say that what works for them, works for them, and what works for me, works for me. No. The laws are specific. They are breaking the law.

So, if you went into their compound, you'd find many cabins, each with a husband, many wives, and a whole bunch of kids. Right? Any "wife" that is underage is being raped by her pedophile "husband." All of the wives are allowing it. It doesn't matter why they are. If they were living in Saudi Arabia, and that was the culture there (it is), then they wouldn't be breaking the law. Like it or not. But they don't live in Saudi Arabia. They live here, and the culture dictates that it is wrong.

And you'd find a whole bunch of kids that are groomed to be raped.

How is there any disagreement in this?

Why in the world wouldn't they take all of the children in that cabin, the same as they'd take all of the children at my neighbors?

And whether the foster care system sucks or not is not the issue. Yes, it sucks, we all know that. But that's what is available to my neighbor's kids. Why should it be an issue for these children? Because they have a different life style than I do? When a child goes from one family into another, the lifestyle is gonna be different. It's usually the other extreme... the kids have had less rules, more freedom, etc. That doesn't bother anyone. These kids are just coming from the other extreme.

And as for the mothers going with the children... what? Should my neighbor's wife go with her children, even though she stood by and permitted her children to be raped? No! EVEN if she's a wonderful mother in every other way. In THIS way, she's a HORRIBLE mother, and the children must be protected from her not protecting them from him.

k, off my soap box now.

I am in such complete agreement with you and I can't believe that some people think this is okay. We are not talking about 16 year old girls getting pregnant by their boyfriends. We are talking about 12-18 year old girls getting pregnant by their fathers, uncles, and other old men that have lived with them since they were born. And yes ALL the children need to be removed. Is it okay for them to groom the young boys to be rapist and pedophiles. Is this a healthy environment for the rest of the children? Seriously are there people out there thinking that this behavior is allowed but no other abuse. No physical or mental abuse just sexual abuse. Really.

As for the mothers going along. What? I am all for babies being able to have breast milk. Give the mother a pump but these mothers participated in and probably even at times encouraged the abuse going on at this compound. They might have been victims themselves but that doesn't excuse their inability to protect their children. Before they are allowed continuous contact with their children there needs to be a whole lot of counseling going on or at least monitored visits.

I am not sympathetic to the mothers' situation. They chose this life or they chose to stay and they were responsible for protecting their innocent children (and that includes their young daughters) and they failed.